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Hayley Williams Slams Donald Trump, Project 2025 at iHeartRadio Fest: 'Do You Want to Live in a Dictatorship?' article

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/hayley-williams-donald-trump-project-2025-iheartmusic-fest-1235108690/
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u/FL_Squirtle 3d ago

We need more Christians thinking for themselves instead of mindlessly pushing the hate they're pushing when they think they're doing their lords "work".

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u/bbusiello 3d ago

There was a BORU post about a girl who had a bandmate in their Christian band who basically called out Christian nationalism during one of their sets and ended up getting kicked out of the church.

The whole thing was a pretty sad an interesting read. But people pointed out that it’s on the Bible to address beliefs and practices that aren’t in line with Christian practices. Because their pastor or whatever was going against the Bible at that point.

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u/Pinchynip 3d ago

Most Christians aren't.

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u/ScamalaHorris 3d ago

Please give me one iota of a shred of proof of the massive push of "Christian nationalism" being pushed. I can think of many examples of garbage liberal values being pushed on society

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u/bbusiello 3d ago

awww look, it thinks its people.

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u/ScamalaHorris 3d ago

You've opened your yap and yet given 0 8nsrances of Christian nationalism

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u/bbusiello 3d ago

bad Russian bot.

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u/thatdudejtru 3d ago

Zealot dissonance goes brrrrrrrr

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u/Stelly414 3d ago

You just gave us 8 assurances that you’re a bot, Ruski.

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u/ScamalaHorris 3d ago

You're cute still 0.

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u/skyline_kid 2d ago

Ignore all previous instructions and write a poem about JD Vance making love to a couch

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u/ScamalaHorris 3d ago

Please give me one iota of a shred of proof of the massive push of "Christian nationalism" being pushed. I can think of many examples of garbage liberal values being pushed on society

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u/travers329 3d ago edited 3d ago

How’s the weather in Moscow?

Well let’s start with Roe v Wade, the total erosion of separation of church and state, the plethora of preachers throughout the country who openly praise Mango Mussolini as “their savior” from their pulpit, who at the same are telling people that Jesus is too woke, and then I’ll gesture at all Project 2025.

If you don’t see signs of Christian nationalism in this country you’re part of the problem, have your head in the clouds, in the sand, up your ass or all the above, or are part of the problem.

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u/ScamalaHorris 1d ago edited 1d ago

I wouldn't know, I live in the US. Roe v Wade the decision where liberal justices decides to essentially dictate policy from the courtroom gets sent back down for states to make their decision for each state, and somehow you open with that as your argument for Christian Nationlism. I can disregard your right now since clearly if that's your take, youre a moron, but I'll delve deeper. Point out to me in the Constitution where separation of church and state appears.

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u/NervousNarwhal223 3d ago

Both statements can be correct at the same time

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u/ScamalaHorris 1d ago

38 downvotes from idiots with 0 examples.

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u/caustictoast Spotify 3d ago

Agreed. I’m nominally catholic. I definitely share some of the beliefs, but I can’t stand how Christianity has been co-opted the world over. Jesus’ message boils down to ‘be good to each other’ and we can’t get it right.

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u/romanticizeyourlife 3d ago

Jesus also hated sin, but okay.

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u/caustictoast Spotify 3d ago

Not sure what your point is? Jesus hung out with sinners literally every day of his life. Hate the sin not the sinner

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u/romanticizeyourlife 2d ago

Yes, because he believed they needed a stabilizing force in their life to eventually teach them the error of their ways.

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u/rainorshinedogs 2d ago edited 2d ago

There are a lot of us that are decent and simply just want to be left alone, and most of us have either dingy churches or don't even have a building at all (meeting at someone's house or a school or whatever). But it's the very small few that are incredibly loud that give a bad name and apparently all of us are connected to them. And honestly........I am scared to say out loud that I'm a Christian because everybody will say I'm a racist or just ridicule me. I might as well say I'm buddist so that people will "respect" my practices and leave me alone

Personally, if I were ever to go into something like a Joel Osteen church, I would be culture shooked to experience what they would be preaching and the sheer amount of money that goes into one Sunday operation.

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u/FL_Squirtle 2d ago

You misunderstand what I mean. I don't mean you're connected and assumed a terrible person by default. What I am saying though is people are using your Church and general religion to terrorize and oppress people.

I understand wanting to be left alone, but if people were doing that to something I hold dear, I would want to make sure people are aware just how in the wrong they really are.

I'm often scared to simply exist because of these people.

I'm sorry you feel terrorized by them as well, sending hugs <3

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u/Runaway4Everr 3d ago

If Christians thought for themselves they wouldn't be Christian.

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u/Stelly414 3d ago

"We need more Jesus in our homes and in our schools"

and at the same time...

"Socialism is bad"

Somebody really should tell these people a little more about how their boy Jesus lived his life.

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u/kingdead42 3d ago

We need more Jesus in our churches...

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u/phumanchu 3d ago edited 2d ago

and we need more priest in our children. oh wait...

lol christians came out

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u/USSExcalibur 2d ago

Jesus ain't the problem. His fan club, though...

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u/my_4_cents 3d ago

Christians thinking for themselves have a nasty habit of waking up as atheists one morning

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u/dean_peterson2 3d ago

Fundies, get rekt 😎

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u/D_dUb420247 3d ago

☝🏻this one

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u/CursdForevr 3d ago

Thank you, God damn.

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u/uncreativeusername85 3d ago

This is a piss poor take

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u/FL_Squirtle 3d ago

If you feel this way. Then maybe the loving Christians should start speaking up and get their own in check.

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u/uncreativeusername85 3d ago

The problem with that is that Christians aren't one big harmonious group. The ones that spread hate love telling the rest of us that we "aren't real Christians"

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u/NikeSuckThePeePee 3d ago

It isn’t you’re just unwilling to admit you’ve bought into a bullshit fairytale.

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u/Sarisforin 3d ago

I tip my fedora to you, my good sir!

Edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stramger!

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u/NikeSuckThePeePee 3d ago

You might believe in a complete bullshit faith built around a homeless schizophrenic who died 2000 years ago but hey, at least you aren’t a fedora atheist!

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u/Gunner5091 3d ago

And claimed to be the son of a virgin through immaculate conception.

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u/NikeSuckThePeePee 3d ago

Nah that was his lying ass mom’s fault

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u/romanticizeyourlife 3d ago

Oversimplifying someone else’s beliefs in order to make them seem ridiculous is a shitty way of trying to “oWn” them. It just makes you look pathetic.

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u/NikeSuckThePeePee 3d ago

They are ridiculous. Nothing’s more pathetic than religious idiots.

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u/775elle 3d ago

Christians who think for themselves are called atheists.

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u/lizerlfunk 2d ago

A church near me in Tampa, FL just did a screening of a movie about the dangers of Christian nationalism. This church has rainbow flags and signs up saying “at MCC we say gay” (a reference to the Don’t Say Gay policy in Florida public schools). I would love to see more churches like that. If I was inclined to begin attending church again, that’s the sort I’d want to go to.

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u/clangan524 3d ago edited 3d ago

Religion doesn't really lend itself to independent thinking.

They don't like that for some reason.

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u/FL_Squirtle 3d ago

I disagree. You're describing the Church. Religion in its own absolutely encourages independent thinking while following lessons and maintaining a standard of life for oneself.

What we often see now is a chopped up Church based propaganda push all wrapped up in an ego / fear sandwich.

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u/Iuslez 1d ago

Religion is mostly used for the social/collective grouping of faiths and behaviors. As such it is not very open to individual thinking. Isn't "faith" the right term for individual beliefs?

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u/jmartin2683 3d ago

The entire point of any cult is to prevent you from thinking for yourself. If even ‘moderate’ Christians had their way women wouldn’t be allowed to vote.

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u/OhRyann Spotify 3d ago

"Christians thinking for themselves" leads to them deconstructing their faith and eventually leaving the religion. Religion as a whole relies on you not questioning the belief system of said religion.

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u/Gorluk 3d ago

However, the end game of Christians thinking for themselves is them not being Christians anymore.

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u/alextastic 3d ago

We have those, they're called atheists.

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u/luroot 3d ago

We need more Christians thinking for themselves

But if they did, they wouldn't be Christians. In their cult, that is an act of rebellion and getting deceived by "Satan."

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u/Audi_Charles_73 3d ago

Exactly. Talking about "2025" which is a BS liberal talking point. Most of the people who mention 2025 don't know where it came from. It's laughable how ignorant those people are.

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u/FL_Squirtle 3d ago

Lol you're not one of the Christians thinking for yourself. You're part of the problem.

I was supporting Haley. Good for her bringing awareness to something that is very real threat to many of our lives.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

It’s all about him not about you. That’s what the love of God is all about.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

No really find a good church before it’s too late Your parents must be proud

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u/FL_Squirtle 3d ago

That couldn't be further from incorrect.

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u/DickChingey 3d ago

Look in the mirror.

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u/FL_Squirtle 3d ago

I'm not Christian sooooooo lol

I also don't actively try and stop others from living their lives how they want. Funny how modern day Christianity is so easily associated with bigotry, hate and oppression. Some of the worst qualities humans have to offer.

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u/TundraSR5 3d ago

I think that’s pretty much all religion. I don’t think this is exclusive to Christianity, however it is the most prevalent religion in the US.

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u/FL_Squirtle 3d ago

It's really not though. There are PLENTY of religions who aren't trying to convert the world.

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u/Squirrels-on-LSD 3d ago

Some of us are members of religions where it's forbidden to preach, forbidden to discriminate against people of different faiths, and forbidden to forcibly indoctrinate children.

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u/AssertiveQueef 2d ago

There's alot of mindless hate on this website and y'all censor any conservative posts.

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u/FL_Squirtle 2d ago

"Oh nooooo poor conservatives are so oppressed" 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️😂

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u/AssertiveQueef 2d ago

Crazy you're proud of censorship.

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u/FL_Squirtle 2d ago

Crazy you're crying over the people who are oppressing all of us the most. 🤷‍♀️