r/PowerScaling • u/Lovec_2016 • Aug 26 '24
Lets make a chaos. Who would win? Games
All of them are at their prime and full power with all weapons No holding back.
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Aug 26 '24
By Statements? Probably Doomslayer.
By Feats? Even Early Game Asura Negs this List together in it's entirety.
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 3rd biggest boros glazer Aug 26 '24
Where does asura scale by feats alone?
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Aug 26 '24
At Least Multi-Galactic, considering he beat Chakravartin, who's legit bigger than Galaxies size wise.
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u/badlesscash Aug 26 '24
And this is before the chakravartin’s true form fight.
Asura is pretty much the “all feats, no hype” man.
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u/Pataraxia Aug 26 '24
Asura in lore description(idk): "They use super powerfull high tech reactors that make them millions of times stronger so uh crazy strengh feat"
Asura in game: Somehow grows progressively stronger from country to continental to universal just because he's angry.
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u/Ok_Try_1665 Customizable Flair Aug 26 '24
Who else but all feats, no statement man Asura himself stands on top.
Bayonetta close second
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 3rd biggest boros glazer Aug 26 '24
Where does Asura scale with feats alone?
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u/PermaBan345 Professional DDLC (peak fiction) yapper Aug 26 '24
Bro is basically 100% feats, if I remember correctly he scales to 3-A.
Every other of these characters need statements to scale higher, an example of a clear statement is Fate, who claims to Moon Cell is 8th Dimensional, making the people who can destroy the Moon Cell 8D and 1-C. However, this doesn’t make any sense if you consider feats because the Moon Cell just looks like a big ol’ domain, nothing more. Just because BB said it, we can confirm it’s 8D, but feats don’t prove such.
Asura lacks such statements, everything he does is physical and there has been said nothing that makes him stronger than he already is.
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Aug 26 '24
Crazy how most casual probably thing Asura low diff them all, and you know what they are indeed correct 😎
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u/Just_a_bored_weeb Aug 26 '24
Dante and Bayonetta end up having a dance battle and making out which makes Lady jealous, so her and Bayonetta have a heated catfight. Doomguy and Kratos chill in the background watching the chaos, and idk anything about Asura, so he's probably just chilling there as well with a beer
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u/Particular-Sign-7944 Aug 26 '24 edited Aug 26 '24
There’s a doc in the description: https://youtu.be/dPRm1eH5ZRc?si=0cc-5RjTEp0yg_TI
https://youtu.be/7M-Ow42rRwQ?si=xdrTm_2yiTedAg8m
Dante doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10xIz9A3IGsoNDhMMAI7ptN_G6dyFL7asThaIdjGxze4/mobilebasic
Either Doom or Dante who would get to like Low 1-A or 1-A on the new tiering system and 1-S on CSAP
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u/Gold_Cartoonist7180 Marvel is 2D Aug 26 '24
Either slayer or Dante imo
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u/Perfect-Log-5456 Aug 26 '24
Bro doesn't know who asura is 😭🙏
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u/Gold_Cartoonist7180 Marvel is 2D Aug 26 '24
I know Who Asura is Bud. Its just Statements from Lore makes them scale higher😭🙏
Even i know, Asura has better feats.
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u/Perfect-Log-5456 Aug 26 '24
If we go off of ACTUAL feats instead of STATEMENTS asura scales way higher
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u/Gold_Cartoonist7180 Marvel is 2D Aug 26 '24
Yeah but since Op didn't specify, I am going with lore accurate one that's why I said "imo"
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u/Gold_Cartoonist7180 Marvel is 2D Aug 26 '24
I know Who Asura is Bud. Its just Statements from Lore makes them scale higher😭🙏
Even i know, Asura has better feats.
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u/The_Raven_Born Aug 26 '24
Asura isn't beating Dante or the Slayer, lol.
Both of them have defeated actually mutilversal Asura is multi galaxy at most.
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u/Odd_Mongoose3175 29d ago
Both of them have defeated actually mutilversal Asura is multi galaxy at most.
The Chakravrtin Asura fought is most likely multiversal+ yet Asura kept surpassing him htru ragemaxxing
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u/The_Raven_Born 29d ago
No fests to back it or even lore, lol.
God in Doom created the multiverse, and Mundus was responsible for cresting our universe, and the others outside of it from the void.
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u/a55_Goblin420 Aug 26 '24
Asura no diffs.
He did all his feats. Everybody else is statements and scaling. Asura IS his scale.
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u/Particular-Media-959 Aug 26 '24
Dante and Doomguy chilling out killing demons over pizza and strawberry sundae
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u/Tall_Growth_532 Aug 26 '24
The new version of Doomslayer but it's his past self vs The old version of Kratos in the future
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u/posture_check_71 Aug 26 '24
i thought the same thing, the prompt itself doesnt make sense
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u/Tall_Growth_532 29d ago
Well own of the many reason and main ones we pitch a matchup between Doomslayer and Kratos is because both are slayers, warriors/Soldiers, rage, have many weapons, gruesome kills. I'd say there's should be some difference
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u/The_Raven_Born Aug 26 '24
Dante womanizer Bayo into a Date
Styles on the Doom slayer
He just beats Asura
And after a pretty long fight, beats Kratos.
He's got Hax regen, hax counter, and the dude is just kind of ridiculous.
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u/Deathstar699 Aug 26 '24
Crazy how people consistently use these guys for gaming scaling when we both know JRPG characters are way stronger.
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u/Lovec_2016 Aug 26 '24
Eh, mainly these characters are a bit popular these days thats why. Although I don't really know much about JRPG characters, I only know Final Fantasy VII and Persona 5 which I don't scale them high as these five characters
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u/Deathstar699 Aug 26 '24
Thats fair, but there is a few that could match these characters.
Final fantasy as a series scales way higher on the older NES games and even further if we consider the events during Dissidia.
There is also a couple of other JRPG's protags who become stronger than those here but they are from more obscure less popular titles.
Like I know Lenneth from VP1 would solo all here as an example.
And I am pretty sure there are some Star Ocean characters that could maybe do the same.
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u/Lovec_2016 Aug 26 '24
I honestly don't think none Final Fnatasy characters can solo five of them. But I will do a research to analyze again
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u/Deathstar699 Aug 26 '24
Chaos? Exdeath? Cloud Of Darkness? Gilgamesh? Mateus? And thats just the villians let alone the protagonists.
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u/Nightmare-datboi Aug 26 '24
Most jrpgs are really old or poorly written to where nobody remembers them or nobody wants to use them for scaling. Final fantasy is still in the public consciousness and that’s about it.
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u/Deathstar699 Aug 26 '24
Old yes, poorly written? Hell no, Jrpg's especially in the NES and PS2 eras were never lower than a 7/10 bare minimum. Its just populous bias that puts Final Fantasy ahead, Square had better marketing, more resources and bought out any conpetition that wasn't making enough money.
Realistically Final Fantasy is like middle of the road in terms of quality when it comes to JRPG's. The main reason its popular is because it times its releases perfectly and has a better marketing team.
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u/Nightmare-datboi Aug 26 '24
Talking about the new ones being poorly written, or at least a lot of them. I’m not saying the older ones are.
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u/Deathstar699 Aug 26 '24
Yeah no that makes sense, not being elietist tho I do like newer jrpgs at least gameplay wise but dam could they use some narritive upgrades.
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u/Bulky-Rule6578 Accurate Saitama scaling (no wank >:() Aug 26 '24
In terms of feats it's
Asura followed by Bayoneta followed by Dante followed by Kratos and then doom slayer
Feats wise my boy Asura mops the floor
wank Statments wise I give it to Dante the doom slayer May have fought God but Dante has fought beings that can create an entire universe back when he was súper weak, and has fought several God like beings which are wayyy beyond Mundus ik terms of power and has long since power crept him so hard even in base form and that's without the devil triggers
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u/Ok-Supermarket-3211 Aug 26 '24
Idk too much about anyone other than Doomslayer, but if Kratos, Bayonetta, and Dante scaling works like lore slayer scaling (I hear people say it does), then Asura wins because he has actual impressive feats that you can point to rather than just "BU... BU... BUT... THE LOOOOOOORRRRE!!! Yes, it's not even close to matching anything that happens in the games, bu... bu... but the LOOOOOOORRRRE!" Like nah, Asura actually fights a god that dwarves Earth, meanwhile Doomslayer got pinned down by a temple. His ass is grass for sure. The rest, idk. I said what I said.
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u/Nightmare-datboi Aug 26 '24
Most of Dante’s feats are based on statements. Like, “oh cool I beat this weird shadow guy named nightmare time to see where they sca-… why the fuck do they scale to multiversal…?
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 3rd biggest boros glazer Aug 26 '24
Well why WOULDNT the floor goop scale to outerversal?
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u/Nightmare-datboi Aug 26 '24
I love statements
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 3rd biggest boros glazer Aug 26 '24
Same, it gives me a canon way to glaze My favorite verses
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u/ParsnipSenior4804 Aug 26 '24
Dante slams all them in both feats and statements
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u/Nightmare-datboi Aug 26 '24
Dante is all fucking statements bruh :/
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u/Moonlightbutter18072 Aug 26 '24
He does have the quicksilver speed feats and can summon a miniature supernova in gameplay but yeah mostly statements.
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u/laggyboye Aug 26 '24
Asura wins, though i genuinely wish my favorite character here (Doomguy) wasn't a no feats all statements character considering how much I loved the DOOM series growing up
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u/BA_TheBasketCase Aug 26 '24
I pick the 4th guy cuz he looks the coolest. I’m a sucker for glowing eyes like that.
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u/AsuraBG Aug 26 '24
Feats? My bro, Asura (I'm big fan of him if it's not obvious by my username). Statements and lore? Probably the Slayer.
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u/Akirex5000 SuperGOAT stomps idgaf Aug 26 '24
Asura solos, Dante/Bayonetta are pretty close I think and Kratos and Doomslayer are mostly backed by statements
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u/Ofmachines1 Aug 26 '24
Doom guy is like millions of years old pretty sure and has done way more over time than any one of them
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u/weaklandscaper2595 Aug 26 '24
Considering lore and shit either dante or slayer
Betting slayer
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u/Nightmare-datboi Aug 26 '24
Feats it’s Asura by the largest margin
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u/tom_rex_333 New Scaler Aug 26 '24
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u/EnemyOfAi Aug 26 '24
I haven't read the lore but I don't see Slayer overpowering literal God. Asura is literally universal, he wins low diff.
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 3rd biggest boros glazer Aug 26 '24
Ooph, the lore is what makes half these characters strong
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u/EnemyOfAi 27d ago
A lot of the time lore just feels like fanfiction to me. Especially when it comes to western franchise characters. Feel like Harley Quinn is multiversal according to lore
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u/Sea_Strain_6881 3rd biggest boros glazer 27d ago
Yeah, but if we go by just feats alone, Bayonetta is probably 2nd or tied with asura
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u/Tomb-trader Aug 26 '24
Asura negs, doomguy and dante are fodder in comparison
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u/NetOk1421 Aug 26 '24
What??? I thought a few months ago mfs were saying he’s only planetary 🤔
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u/Tomb-trader Aug 26 '24
Asura crossed the universe to annihilate god, and regularly takes on threats far above planetary.
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u/The_Raven_Born Aug 26 '24
Asura doesn't neg shit, lol. He's Multi galaxy at most, Mundus is above him and Chakravartin and Dante treated him like another Tuesday.
Creator of two universes >>>> guy that hijacked one.
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u/Some_ArabGuy My enlightened opinion🔥 > Your foolish, garbage opinion🧢 Aug 26 '24
Slayer slams everyone here
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u/Odd-Target7828 Not a Scaler Aug 26 '24
By statements yes by feats asura low diff
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u/Some_ArabGuy My enlightened opinion🔥 > Your foolish, garbage opinion🧢 Aug 26 '24
By overall scaling doomguy slams
Scaling by feats only is so stupid, no one gets past multi without statements
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u/Odd-Target7828 Not a Scaler Aug 26 '24
And scaling by only statements gets every body to outer with no real visual proof
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u/Future_Adagio2052 New Scaler Aug 26 '24
I don't know where Bayonetta scales or her hax so I won't comment on it here but from weakest to strongest it goes from
Asura only uni and mftl with no hax which while not had gets him outclassed by everyone else
Dante is low multi with mftl speed and has good hax however he gets both speedblizt and stat stomped by both characters above hi
Kratos about low comp and also good hax and I would like to say the gap between Kratos and the one above him isn't as big as you think since Kratos has shit like soul absorption conceptual Manipulation and the blade of Olympus to help him win but I think the one above him is stronger which I will explain
Doomslayer scales to complex multi and also has good hax to boot the reason I put him above Kratos is because of The Crucible which would help him greatly however as said previously the gap isn't that big and it is closer than people say but I think doomslayer comes on top with a high/extreme diff
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u/NetOk1421 Aug 26 '24
This is literally just Dante vs Kratos vs Doom.
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u/Lovec_2016 Aug 26 '24
Why
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u/NetOk1421 Aug 26 '24
Asura and bayoneta scale significantly lower to Dante alone, and doom (based off of statement) is easily top 3 here. Tbh though kratos and Asura might be interchangeable. I’ll admit that I don’t know a whole lot about how people actually scale Asura nowadays
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u/Lovec_2016 Aug 26 '24
Not really. They are far stronger in scaling too though I am just gonna respect your opinion. So have a good day.
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