r/PowerScaling 19d ago

Name someone that can beat Acheron Games

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

Anyone pass galaxy level

Saitama is enough tbh

Putting uni tiers are straight up unfair.

You should have put aeons here

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u/_Resnad_ 19d ago

I'm about to put a 5-D plus character in this comment section ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

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u/TheEpic_Blue 19d ago

Yogiri, Anos, Rimuru, Hajun etc...

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u/_Resnad_ 19d ago

Yep. Only a bit of mercy for not putting ones that scale above that aka probably comic characters and or the lemon or those yog mfs

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u/Justm4x 19d ago

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u/AceTheSlayer 19d ago

i dont think he can do it tbh....can he even alter with the almighty when he cant even see her in the revelations (as if she doesnt exist)? Nihility is kinda a cheat...and before u say he outscales,the nuh-uh ability is from IX itself no way he outscaling that

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

I don't think the Nuh uh ability from she got from ix is strong enough to deal with yhwach.

Acheron is an emanator, ix is an aeon and aeons scale higher than emanators.

Think aeons, emanators and pathstriders as Sovereigns, generals and knights in a kingdom

Aeons are like sovereigns they can control their power as much to an extent they want withing their boundaries

Emanators are like generals they can control their power of the path as nearly on a same level as a sovereign but due to a sovereign(aeon) remains higher there are some restrictions

Pathstriders are like knights they can only control a fracture of power they got from their sovereign(aeon)

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u/Justm4x 19d ago

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u/AceTheSlayer 19d ago edited 19d ago

whats to steal from nothingness?
even if he does, It will backfire and the nihility will consume him instead

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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago

Itโ€™s not really nothingness given Acheron herself once cut through a manifestation of Ixโ€™s power

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u/AceTheSlayer 19d ago edited 19d ago

She manifested the naught sword before she cut the manifestation tho. So she was pretty much fighting fire with fire at that point.

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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago edited 19d ago

Fire with fire but the fact that it can still slice your so called โ€œnothingnessโ€ means that at the very least that power is vulnerable to conceptual manipulation and existence erasure.

Also we donโ€˜t know what Naught actually does like we donโ€™t know what Origin or End does. They could be completely different then what Honkai has

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

ix stomps yhwach tbh.

Not only he scales higher by being a higher dimensional concept(11d low-ball) but almighty gets hard counter by nihility.

Ix will see him as a chess piece

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u/Justm4x 19d ago

OP is about Acheron and not IX tho

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

You did mentioned ix

Although Acheron does counter almighty due to having nihility but since yhwach scales higher he wins

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u/Justm4x 19d ago

I wanted to mention IX as someone who can defeat Acheron as OP asked but i decided not to

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u/FarOutcome9035 19d ago

What does nihilty do?

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

Well as the name states it's literally absolute nothingness.

Anything related to the concept of nihility is what it does. It's literally just straight up authority over nothingness.

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u/FarOutcome9035 19d ago

So...existence erasure?

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

No not existence erasure.

Existence erasure is something

Nihility is absolutely nothing itself. Like straight up authority over absolute nothingness. Concepts, terms, and many more.

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u/FarOutcome9035 19d ago

So how it works in battle ? Makes her nonexistent or something?

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

Yes

It can turn something that exist into nothing

Time for example is part of existence. Turn it to nothingness send there's no time at all.

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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago

Itโ€™s been cut through before mate. Aeons arenโ€™t absolute. They have authority but that does not mean they control all instances of that. Acheron herself had erased a manifestation of Ixโ€™s authority before

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u/FarOutcome9035 19d ago

So its existence erasue. Pretty much counterable.

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Nothingness_Manipulation

Not really existence erasure nor erasure in general

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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago

Thatโ€™s bs, she cut through one manifestation of his authority

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

The cut literally turn it to nothing.

Acheron casually severed the harmony path from Aventurine, making it unable to connect with him.

Same happen during Sunday fight. Where she's a counter to Order. She deadass casually cut through Sundays dream hivemind for the TB to wake up and turn it to nothing plus having his authority over penacony useless.

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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago

She cut Ixโ€™s black sun before she was even Ixโ€™s emanator. Thatโ€™s not Ixโ€™s power, thatโ€™s her own

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

She cut Ixโ€™s black sun

IX is the Black sun

And no where it's stated she cut ix shadow. If you mean during her fight with Kevin expy he was using "end" blade

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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago

No the black sun is one of Ixโ€™s shadows. She literally was shown cutting it in half at the end of her trailer

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u/Tufit_v1 Customizable Flair 19d ago

11D?

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

11 dimension

High complex multi tier

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u/Tufit_v1 Customizable Flair 19d ago

I know that. I'm asking what makes IX 11D.

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago edited 19d ago

Sea of Quanta is 11D https://imgur.com/a/soq-1-pr6DEAy

Sea=img Tree in terms of overall scaling

Aeons are considered higher dimensional entities by author Da Wei himself https://imgur.com/a/wdLVj8p

Aha the elation for example aeon reached the peak of the IMG tree branch before ascending to aeon hood. So we can assume other aeons are the same level as him as well https://imgur.com/a/pk1yT4Y

Herta outright says IX can casually destroy the universe if they want just by thinking https://gyazo.com/a57ca2002de630d8b3cd6dbd91b5186f

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u/Tufit_v1 Customizable Flair 18d ago

Sea of Quanta is 11Dย https://imgur.com/a/soq-1-pr6DEAy

I don't see any scans entailing 11D Sea of Quanta, just 4-5D. But I remember a scan saying it has 4 dimensions and 7 curled up ones.

"Curled up" would entail compactified dimensions, so they wouldn't scale to normal spatial ones (I think), and therefore, the Sea of Quanta wouldn't be 11D.

Aeons are considered higher dimensional entities by author Da Wei himselfย https://imgur.com/a/wdLVj8p

That's 4D existence, alright.

Herta outright says IX can casually destroy the universe if they want just by thinkingย https://gyazo.com/a57ca2002de630d8b3cd6dbd91b5186f

Universal-High universal, alright.

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 18d ago

don't see any scans entailing 11D Sea of Quanta, just 4-5D. But I remember a scan saying it has 4 dimensions and 7 curled up ones.

Scroll more down bruh

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u/Ornery_Macaroon2027 19d ago

send ur scale for that

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

Sea of Quanta is 11D https://imgur.com/a/soq-1-pr6DEAy

Sea=img Tree in terms of overall scaling

Aeons are considered higher dimensional entities by author Da Wei himself https://imgur.com/a/wdLVj8p

Aha the elation for example aeon reached the peak of the IMG tree branch before ascending to aeon hood. So we can assume other aeons are the same level as him as well https://imgur.com/a/pk1yT4Y

Herta outright says IX can casually destroy the universe if they want just by thinking https://gyazo.com/a57ca2002de630d8b3cd6dbd91b5186f

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u/Ornery_Macaroon2027 19d ago

looks like your 11d thing broke. but i found it on vsbw (where i assume the scale comes from), so itโ€™s cool.

reading it, i think it can be argued itโ€™s maybe 5D assuming they donโ€™t count a temporal dimension amongst them.

but the 11 dimension thing i have a problem with because that can refer to the worlds contained within the sea, not actual dimensions of space or time

higher dimensional can mean a lot of things besides a strictly mathematical, but maybe in conjunction with other things. iโ€™ll discuss those though

reaching the โ€œpeakโ€ of something doesnโ€™t necessarily imply the strength to destroy it.

how does this universe compare to the sea of quanta?

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

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u/Ornery_Macaroon2027 18d ago

i appreciate the link but i had already found the VSBW 11D scale which i am sure is what you are referring to and i responded to it, along with some other contentions

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 18d ago

reading it, i think it can be argued itโ€™s maybe 5D assuming they donโ€™t count a temporal dimension amongst them.

It's higher

but the 11 dimension thing i have a problem with because that can refer to the worlds contained within the sea, not actual dimensions of space or time

Branches(worlds/universes) from tree fall from into sea. Becoming bubble universes

higher dimensional can mean a lot of things besides a strictly mathematical, but maybe in conjunction with other things. iโ€™ll discuss those though

Aeons</=Tree=Sea

reaching the โ€œpeakโ€ of something doesnโ€™t necessarily imply the strength to destroy it.

Aha reach peak of the branch by climbing the tree as a mortal. Later events become aeon hood. All Aeons=tree in terms of connections(only exception is hooh the equilibrium who fuse with the tree)

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u/Ornery_Macaroon2027 18d ago

i meant based on my below arguments.

donโ€™t see how this is relevant.

higher dimensional can mean lots of things figuratively we can go over if you want

all i see in your panels (which seems to be a wiki page) is them climbing it. this doesnโ€™t mean they surpass it in raw power or something

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 18d ago

Only aha climb it to become aeon hood everyone else(like nanook who burn his homeworld just by ascending to aeon hood) have their own ways.

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u/LEDX8 Customizable Flair 19d ago

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u/Allhaillordkutku Iโ€™m right because I said so 19d ago edited 19d ago

Nice complex hax ability now check this out [FLOAT]

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u/lettuceisbadfr New Scaler 19d ago

Zoink. (If you know you know)

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u/knk7876 19d ago

"Hey! I heard your emenator status is strong. Let me fight it."

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u/Intrepid-Park-3804 19d ago

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

That we have The Trailblazer with the Trailblaze path aka the gurren laggan of HSR

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u/Raamaazan 19d ago

Zoink, Trick, Eandis come to mind

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u/tsubasafredo 19d ago

How strong is she actually

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u/mongus_the_batata Pokemon and Genshin enthusiast 19d ago

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u/Allhaillordkutku Iโ€™m right because I said so 19d ago

GOATHIMCHADPEAKTANO slayer of FRAUDS destroyer of BUMS solos

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u/Sydfxs Lovecraftian Agenda ๐Ÿ”›๐Ÿ” 18d ago

GAOTHIMTANO ONE TAPS

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u/Ready-Work-4766 19d ago

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u/Top-Perception2121 19d ago

Featherine is Anosโ€™s mother trust me.

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u/Allhaillordkutku Iโ€™m right because I said so 19d ago

Canon

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u/AloyJr 18d ago

then can I be Anosโ€™ father please ๐Ÿ™?

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u/Real_eXwhY_Z 18d ago

Sorry been booked

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u/Trishulabestboi Tusk Act 4 soloes fiction 19d ago

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u/Jealous-Bumblebee-50 19d ago

Idk if tusk could win

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u/Trishulabestboi Tusk Act 4 soloes fiction 19d ago

Is she multiversal?

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u/uhTlSUMI 19d ago

How strong is she tho? We havenโ€™t seen her go all out yet, everyone was fodder to her and at most one slash one shot everything and everyone.

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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago

Itโ€™s confusing. HSR scaling is very inconsistent. Thereโ€™s tons of mistranslations and then tons of weird stuff. Things like galaxies can be translated to star system instead and vice versa. Universe has a dozen different meanings. Thereโ€™s stuff like Aeonโ€™s shaking the imaginary tree but then their birth only destroyed their home solar system.

Anyways I personally limit her to solar system level but you can use different translations to force her to galaxy level at most.

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u/Comfortable_Ice_8237 19d ago

Yo who is this? Looks like a genshin character?

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u/Theskyaboveheaven 19d ago

Rude thing to say ngl

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u/MDubbzee Irigoy good, Yogiri bad 19d ago

Who invited Tanjiro

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

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u/Tufit_v1 Customizable Flair 19d ago

Nuh uh

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

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u/Tufit_v1 Customizable Flair 19d ago

What feat gets Asriel to Multi-Multi+?

The best he ever did was hypergoner, which ate up the 'whole' underground.

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

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u/Tufit_v1 Customizable Flair 19d ago

Flowey, who can reset the game.

Situational, but you could say that. Doesn't scale anywhere, though. It's just (space)time manipulation hax

He's stated that he's capable of destroying the entire world

When did he state that specifically.

The Undertal world has infinite timelines, so the game reset is a very casual universal feat.

When was that stated.

Also, Asriel should also upscale from Chara

Headcanon. Feats show otherwise, too.

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u/Intrepid-Park-3804 19d ago

Undertale powerscaling is utter nonsense which i would never take seriously because an normal 12 y.o mortal human child with kitchen knife and ballet shoes apparently is high multiversal++

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u/Lazakhstan Godzilla soloes AOT verse 19d ago

Mr Bean

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u/Yusuf_ibn_Joestar 19d ago

monke soloes

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u/HappyAd4168 19d ago

Me๐Ÿ˜น๐Ÿ˜น ill beat acheron in time for my grandmas dinner

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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago edited 19d ago

https://preview.redd.it/ekc6o9jtz7nd1.jpeg?width=189&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2834de315109a6ce1e04f8c8205b1fa05e340f6d

Musashi. Sheโ€™s basically a complete counter to anything IX related. Her powers are essentially a more broken version of Yhwachโ€™s almighty. Sheโ€™s not only able to view and manipulate all possibilities, she can forcefully create new ones that could not possibly exist. Even if Acheron is immune to precognition, she can force her existence to be known. In addition she can make any possibility a reality Through her ability.

Additionally she can forcefully cut fate itself, allowing for her to make one even with a set destiny to suddenly have their destiny spindle out into infinite possibilities once again.

Her final attack is essentially already grounds for her to usurp IX because her final attack literally erases her on a conceptual level, allowing her to surpass all concepts including time and space and become one with nothingness or in nasuverse terms, become one with the root.

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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago

https://preview.redd.it/ayci4wdn38nd1.png?width=512&format=png&auto=webp&s=befaf511ef2a72f906f8c0fe1af655f17360190d

Okita Souji Alter

Her power is basically the exact same as Acheronโ€™s, she can even bring others into a timeless realm of nothingness that has nothing before or after it. Only difference? Her sword, or rather her existence itself can even kill something that doesnโ€™t exist, meaning sheโ€™s Ixโ€™s bane in a sense. Itโ€™s existence erasure but she can even kill nonexistence if she wanted too.

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u/Primion_x One Who Walks Between Life & Death 19d ago

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u/TheActualMC 19d ago

Who is this? Iโ€™ve never seen this man before (or maybe I haveโ€ฆ he looks like every manhwa/isekai protagonist lmfao)

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u/Primion_x One Who Walks Between Life & Death 19d ago

Novel mc named Victor Elderblood from My Three Wives Are Beautiful Vampires

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u/TheActualMC 19d ago

I have no idea on what to say to thatโ€ฆ is the series good?

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u/Primion_x One Who Walks Between Life & Death 19d ago

Depends if you like the general premise of the story or not๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. The genre and tags it has might be offputting for people.

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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago

I don't even know who that thing is

I thought that was red jinwoo

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u/TheActualMC 19d ago

HELP SAME