r/PowerScaling • u/Jealous-Bumblebee-50 • 19d ago
Name someone that can beat Acheron Games
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago
Anyone pass galaxy level
Saitama is enough tbh
Putting uni tiers are straight up unfair.
You should have put aeons here
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u/_Resnad_ 19d ago
I'm about to put a 5-D plus character in this comment section ๐
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u/TheEpic_Blue 19d ago
Yogiri, Anos, Rimuru, Hajun etc...
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u/_Resnad_ 19d ago
Yep. Only a bit of mercy for not putting ones that scale above that aka probably comic characters and or the lemon or those yog mfs
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u/it_s_me-t This conversation is part of my plan 19d ago
As a wise man once said( and became a meme):
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u/Justm4x 19d ago
Originally wanted to post IX from HSR but...
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u/AceTheSlayer 19d ago
i dont think he can do it tbh....can he even alter with the almighty when he cant even see her in the revelations (as if she doesnt exist)? Nihility is kinda a cheat...and before u say he outscales,the nuh-uh ability is from IX itself no way he outscaling that
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago
I don't think the Nuh uh ability from she got from ix is strong enough to deal with yhwach.
Acheron is an emanator, ix is an aeon and aeons scale higher than emanators.
Think aeons, emanators and pathstriders as Sovereigns, generals and knights in a kingdom
Aeons are like sovereigns they can control their power as much to an extent they want withing their boundaries
Emanators are like generals they can control their power of the path as nearly on a same level as a sovereign but due to a sovereign(aeon) remains higher there are some restrictions
Pathstriders are like knights they can only control a fracture of power they got from their sovereign(aeon)
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u/Justm4x 19d ago
If only he had a way of stealing other people's powers...
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u/AceTheSlayer 19d ago edited 19d ago
whats to steal from nothingness?
even if he does, It will backfire and the nihility will consume him instead0
u/ReadySource3242 19d ago
Itโs not really nothingness given Acheron herself once cut through a manifestation of Ixโs power
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u/AceTheSlayer 19d ago edited 19d ago
She manifested the naught sword before she cut the manifestation tho. So she was pretty much fighting fire with fire at that point.
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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago edited 19d ago
Fire with fire but the fact that it can still slice your so called โnothingnessโ means that at the very least that power is vulnerable to conceptual manipulation and existence erasure.
Also we donโt know what Naught actually does like we donโt know what Origin or End does. They could be completely different then what Honkai has
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago
ix stomps yhwach tbh.
Not only he scales higher by being a higher dimensional concept(11d low-ball) but almighty gets hard counter by nihility.
Ix will see him as a chess piece
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u/Justm4x 19d ago
OP is about Acheron and not IX tho
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago
You did mentioned ix
Although Acheron does counter almighty due to having nihility but since yhwach scales higher he wins
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u/FarOutcome9035 19d ago
What does nihilty do?
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago
Well as the name states it's literally absolute nothingness.
Anything related to the concept of nihility is what it does. It's literally just straight up authority over nothingness.
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u/FarOutcome9035 19d ago
So...existence erasure?
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago
No not existence erasure.
Existence erasure is something
Nihility is absolutely nothing itself. Like straight up authority over absolute nothingness. Concepts, terms, and many more.
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u/FarOutcome9035 19d ago
So how it works in battle ? Makes her nonexistent or something?
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago
Yes
It can turn something that exist into nothing
Time for example is part of existence. Turn it to nothingness send there's no time at all.
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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago
Itโs been cut through before mate. Aeons arenโt absolute. They have authority but that does not mean they control all instances of that. Acheron herself had erased a manifestation of Ixโs authority before
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u/FarOutcome9035 19d ago
So its existence erasue. Pretty much counterable.
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago
https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Nothingness_Manipulation
Not really existence erasure nor erasure in general
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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago
Thatโs bs, she cut through one manifestation of his authority
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago
The cut literally turn it to nothing.
Acheron casually severed the harmony path from Aventurine, making it unable to connect with him.
Same happen during Sunday fight. Where she's a counter to Order. She deadass casually cut through Sundays dream hivemind for the TB to wake up and turn it to nothing plus having his authority over penacony useless.
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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago
She cut Ixโs black sun before she was even Ixโs emanator. Thatโs not Ixโs power, thatโs her own
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago
She cut Ixโs black sun
IX is the Black sun
And no where it's stated she cut ix shadow. If you mean during her fight with Kevin expy he was using "end" blade
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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago
No the black sun is one of Ixโs shadows. She literally was shown cutting it in half at the end of her trailer
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u/Tufit_v1 Customizable Flair 19d ago
11D?
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago
11 dimension
High complex multi tier
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u/Tufit_v1 Customizable Flair 19d ago
I know that. I'm asking what makes IX 11D.
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago edited 19d ago
Sea of Quanta is 11D https://imgur.com/a/soq-1-pr6DEAy
Sea=img Tree in terms of overall scaling
Aeons are considered higher dimensional entities by author Da Wei himself https://imgur.com/a/wdLVj8p
Aha the elation for example aeon reached the peak of the IMG tree branch before ascending to aeon hood. So we can assume other aeons are the same level as him as well https://imgur.com/a/pk1yT4Y
Herta outright says IX can casually destroy the universe if they want just by thinking https://gyazo.com/a57ca2002de630d8b3cd6dbd91b5186f
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u/Tufit_v1 Customizable Flair 18d ago
Sea of Quanta is 11Dย https://imgur.com/a/soq-1-pr6DEAy
I don't see any scans entailing 11D Sea of Quanta, just 4-5D. But I remember a scan saying it has 4 dimensions and 7 curled up ones.
"Curled up" would entail compactified dimensions, so they wouldn't scale to normal spatial ones (I think), and therefore, the Sea of Quanta wouldn't be 11D.
Aeons are considered higher dimensional entities by author Da Wei himselfย https://imgur.com/a/wdLVj8p
That's 4D existence, alright.
Herta outright says IX can casually destroy the universe if they want just by thinkingย https://gyazo.com/a57ca2002de630d8b3cd6dbd91b5186f
Universal-High universal, alright.
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 18d ago
don't see any scans entailing 11D Sea of Quanta, just 4-5D. But I remember a scan saying it has 4 dimensions and 7 curled up ones.
Scroll more down bruh
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u/Ornery_Macaroon2027 19d ago
send ur scale for that
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago
Sea of Quanta is 11D https://imgur.com/a/soq-1-pr6DEAy
Sea=img Tree in terms of overall scaling
Aeons are considered higher dimensional entities by author Da Wei himself https://imgur.com/a/wdLVj8p
Aha the elation for example aeon reached the peak of the IMG tree branch before ascending to aeon hood. So we can assume other aeons are the same level as him as well https://imgur.com/a/pk1yT4Y
Herta outright says IX can casually destroy the universe if they want just by thinking https://gyazo.com/a57ca2002de630d8b3cd6dbd91b5186f
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u/Ornery_Macaroon2027 19d ago
looks like your 11d thing broke. but i found it on vsbw (where i assume the scale comes from), so itโs cool.
reading it, i think it can be argued itโs maybe 5D assuming they donโt count a temporal dimension amongst them.
but the 11 dimension thing i have a problem with because that can refer to the worlds contained within the sea, not actual dimensions of space or time
higher dimensional can mean a lot of things besides a strictly mathematical, but maybe in conjunction with other things. iโll discuss those though
reaching the โpeakโ of something doesnโt necessarily imply the strength to destroy it.
how does this universe compare to the sea of quanta?
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u/Ornery_Macaroon2027 18d ago
i appreciate the link but i had already found the VSBW 11D scale which i am sure is what you are referring to and i responded to it, along with some other contentions
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 18d ago
reading it, i think it can be argued itโs maybe 5D assuming they donโt count a temporal dimension amongst them.
It's higher
but the 11 dimension thing i have a problem with because that can refer to the worlds contained within the sea, not actual dimensions of space or time
Branches(worlds/universes) from tree fall from into sea. Becoming bubble universes
higher dimensional can mean a lot of things besides a strictly mathematical, but maybe in conjunction with other things. iโll discuss those though
Aeons</=Tree=Sea
reaching the โpeakโ of something doesnโt necessarily imply the strength to destroy it.
Aha reach peak of the branch by climbing the tree as a mortal. Later events become aeon hood. All Aeons=tree in terms of connections(only exception is hooh the equilibrium who fuse with the tree)
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u/Ornery_Macaroon2027 18d ago
i meant based on my below arguments.
donโt see how this is relevant.
higher dimensional can mean lots of things figuratively we can go over if you want
all i see in your panels (which seems to be a wiki page) is them climbing it. this doesnโt mean they surpass it in raw power or something
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 18d ago
Only aha climb it to become aeon hood everyone else(like nanook who burn his homeworld just by ascending to aeon hood) have their own ways.
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u/Allhaillordkutku Iโm right because I said so 19d ago edited 19d ago
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u/knk7876 19d ago
"Hey! I heard your emenator status is strong. Let me fight it."
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u/Intrepid-Park-3804 19d ago
But could Goku actually beat IX's crippling depression and emotional havoc?
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago
That we have The Trailblazer with the Trailblaze path aka the gurren laggan of HSR
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u/bloodthirthy 17d ago
Gets banged
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u/Allhaillordkutku Iโm right because I said so 19d ago
GOATHIMCHADPEAKTANO slayer of FRAUDS destroyer of BUMS solos
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u/harris0909 19d ago
Zoro won for having the lack sense of direction
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These 2 cutipies Solos ๐ฃ๐ซ
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Featherine is Anosโs mother trust me.
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u/uhTlSUMI 19d ago
How strong is she tho? We havenโt seen her go all out yet, everyone was fodder to her and at most one slash one shot everything and everyone.
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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago
Itโs confusing. HSR scaling is very inconsistent. Thereโs tons of mistranslations and then tons of weird stuff. Things like galaxies can be translated to star system instead and vice versa. Universe has a dozen different meanings. Thereโs stuff like Aeonโs shaking the imaginary tree but then their birth only destroyed their home solar system.
Anyways I personally limit her to solar system level but you can use different translations to force her to galaxy level at most.
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Forgot about Argus, I have reprimanded my error.
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u/Tufit_v1 Customizable Flair 19d ago
Nuh uh
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u/Tufit_v1 Customizable Flair 19d ago
What feat gets Asriel to Multi-Multi+?
The best he ever did was hypergoner, which ate up the 'whole' underground.
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u/Tufit_v1 Customizable Flair 19d ago
Flowey, who can reset the game.
Situational, but you could say that. Doesn't scale anywhere, though. It's just (space)time manipulation hax
He's stated that he's capable of destroying the entire world
When did he state that specifically.
The Undertal world has infinite timelines, so the game reset is a very casual universal feat.
When was that stated.
Also, Asriel should also upscale from Chara
Headcanon. Feats show otherwise, too.
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u/Intrepid-Park-3804 19d ago
Undertale powerscaling is utter nonsense which i would never take seriously because an normal 12 y.o mortal human child with kitchen knife and ballet shoes apparently is high multiversal++
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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago edited 19d ago
Musashi. Sheโs basically a complete counter to anything IX related. Her powers are essentially a more broken version of Yhwachโs almighty. Sheโs not only able to view and manipulate all possibilities, she can forcefully create new ones that could not possibly exist. Even if Acheron is immune to precognition, she can force her existence to be known. In addition she can make any possibility a reality Through her ability.
Additionally she can forcefully cut fate itself, allowing for her to make one even with a set destiny to suddenly have their destiny spindle out into infinite possibilities once again.
Her final attack is essentially already grounds for her to usurp IX because her final attack literally erases her on a conceptual level, allowing her to surpass all concepts including time and space and become one with nothingness or in nasuverse terms, become one with the root.
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u/ReadySource3242 19d ago
Okita Souji Alter
Her power is basically the exact same as Acheronโs, she can even bring others into a timeless realm of nothingness that has nothing before or after it. Only difference? Her sword, or rather her existence itself can even kill something that doesnโt exist, meaning sheโs Ixโs bane in a sense. Itโs existence erasure but she can even kill nonexistence if she wanted too.
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u/TheActualMC 19d ago
Who is this? Iโve never seen this man before (or maybe I haveโฆ he looks like every manhwa/isekai protagonist lmfao)
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u/Primion_x One Who Walks Between Life & Death 19d ago
Novel mc named Victor Elderblood from My Three Wives Are Beautiful Vampires
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u/TheActualMC 19d ago
I have no idea on what to say to thatโฆ is the series good?
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u/Primion_x One Who Walks Between Life & Death 19d ago
Depends if you like the general premise of the story or not๐คทโโ๏ธ. The genre and tags it has might be offputting for people.
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u/_nitro_legacy_ My Glorious Banger ARGUS BANGS the fictional reality 19d ago
I don't even know who that thing is
I thought that was red jinwoo
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