r/PowerScaling • u/ApprehensiveTruck450 • 24m ago
Discussion Wonder woman vs jean grey
r/PowerScaling • u/Maleficent-Crazy5890 • 3h ago
Literature(Novel,Books) I’ve seen some claims that make Alice from Alice in Wonderland scales to High Outer. However I didn’t find any scale for it. I could only find VSBW scale which puts Alice in Low 1-C. Can someone send me any scales for her with scans?
r/PowerScaling • u/Furista0 • 4h ago
Literature(Novel,Books) Time to debunk this motherfucker
First of all. Who is this guy?
He's a dragon from the Wings of Fire book franchise, more specifically, he's what's called a NightWing and was oh so lucky with being born capable of:
-Precognition
-Telepathy
-Magic
And, for some reason, this guy gets an insane amount of glaze on powerscaling spaces specially by non powerscalers so i'm just going to go through his abilities and the arguments that come with it.
Future sight.
This comes up fairly often as a sort of gotcha, with many people saying that you can't blitz him because of that, so let me just get some things out of the way:
First, he is NOT the NightWing with the best precognition in history, that title belonged to his ex. Not really relevant to my point but i've seen more than one person say that.
Second, NightWing precognition spews a bunch of possible futures that could happen (but only one actually does), it doesn't tell you one set in stone. Any character with some time fuckery going on or probability manipulation would blind him entirely.
Third, only because you can see something coming at you doesn't mean you can avoid it. Specially not if there's literally millions of different possibilities of what said something will do.
Fourth, in character, Darkstalker tends to outright ignore futures where things don't go his way. That's an actual plot point and the reason why he was betrayed in Legends: Darkstalker and died in Darkness of Dragons despite seeing the writing on the wall. It's incredible to me that people think he'd act on futures where he dies when he explicitly didn't in canon.
(Now, yes, he didn't really die per se but his mind was erased and his body was set back to a literal toddler. Peacemaker and Darkstalker are separate beings in its entirety and proof of that is Darkstalker's spells not having an effect on Peacemaker despite being technically the same body for the most part.)
Mind Reading.
Pretty straight forward. He can... Read your mind.
Except i'm pretty sure he can't read the minds of non-dragons because if i recall correctly, Moonwatcher, another mind reader, could not read human minds or only felt their emotions and not their actual thoughts so there's that. Really not a whole lot to say here its just what's on the tin lol.
Although to be fair i haven't read the books in a while so i could be dead wrong.
Animus Magic.
Oh boy, the big one.
Animus, Animus, Animus, horribly written and extremely OP for a setting that would otherwise be fodderized by WW1 humanity.
Animus Magic is less actual magic and more like reality bending, and a HUGE No Limits Fallacy that would make even the most egregious wankers flinch, so i'm going to adress the main argument i've seen.
"Animus can do anything"
False. It can't revive the dead for starters. Sure you can make copies that act exactly like the dragon/person you want back but it is not them as demonstrated when Darkstalker tried to bring Clearsight back by changing another dragon to be exactly like her, but she wasn't.
It also apparently can't make you just fall dead Death Note style. If it did then we would've seen that literally anywhere in the books.
Other thing that leds me to believe that Animus dragons can't just kill you with a word is the fact that they always enchant other objects to do the kill, or in a particular case, force someone to kill themselves, and neither would be necessary if Animus could just kill you.
Furthermore, and speaking about Darkstalker himself, his spells won't really save his ass if he's heavily outmatched in stats or non-magical hax.
Sure his scales are invulnerable (at least they're durable enough to allow him to no sell a mountain exploding on him) but only his scales. Any character with, say, phasing would probably just scramble the fuck out of his insides
Sure he enchanted himself to be immortal, but as seen with Kinkajou, it doesn't heal his body from injuries and he has to manually do that.
Going to the aforementioned example. Said character who just scrambled his insides, turned his brain into mulch or whatever, Darkstalker would just... Be stuck forever there.
He wouldn't die but he also wouldn't heal, specially if his brain was compromised.
Sure he enchanted himself to be immune to other magic but even then that's not infallible.
Take Sukuna for example. Cleave, Dismantle and Malevolent Shrine probably wouldn't work on Darkstalker, but the Slash that cuts the world would because it is not cutting Darkstalker himself but rather the space he is occupying, thus avoiding the condition he set for the spell.
Sukuna could also just get rid of him with Furnace. Sure, the fire itself might be magical but the heat and force of the explosion isn't.
Also, he doesn't have an answer to any character with:
Anti-magic like Asta from Black Clover or Kaiman from Dorohedoro
Any character that themselves are immune to magic like The Doctor from Dr Who, or any time lord really
Any character that uses technology instead of magic (fuck is he gonna do when a bunch of nanobots start messing with him?)
Any character with any form of time manipulation (Time Stopper? Darkie can't cast shit. Time Traveler? Aborts his ass, etc)
Any character that uses magic that technically magic like the Dragonborn from Skyrim or any paracausal Destiny character.
Any character with matter manipulation, because invulnerable scales or not, his atoms are getting fucked.
Any character who outstats him badly.
Any character who's true form is in a higher plane of existence because even if Darkstalker kills the avatar they could just make more. He also would have no idea of this true form and could not act accordingly even if he could harm it.
Etc, etc...
I could go on and on but you all should get the point by now. Darkstalker for what its worth is an OP character as far as low level settings go but for the love of GOD please stop pitting him against Superman level characters, he's not that strong y'all.
r/PowerScaling • u/Opening_Echo2 • 6h ago
Discussion Who wins?
Ssj2 gojo and sukuna vs Naruto
r/PowerScaling • u/toaruverse • 1d ago
Manga New Csm feat just dropped (where does this scales guys?)
galleryr/PowerScaling • u/fardout • 1h ago
Discussion Who wins? (Both in their prime+Prep. time allowed)
r/PowerScaling • u/BroxigarZ • 3h ago
Discussion Carl Runs the Gauntlet - Where's He Stoppin?
r/PowerScaling • u/Spydermunkey13 • 2h ago
Discussion Rank them in power if it’s a battle royale between the 6 Cereal mascots
Walking through the cereal aisle the other day and thought this would be a fun one. I feel like Trix bunny or Lucky the Leprechaun would come out on top
r/PowerScaling • u/AzuDaiohEnjoyer • 19m ago
Anime Does time stop counter Gojo's Infinity?
Help me settle an argument with my friend please
r/PowerScaling • u/Thebigass_spartan • 5h ago
Discussion Stand phasing
The ability to allow stands to phase through objects, organic or not, has always been interesting for me. We see Jotaro manually pump someone else’s heart and manually stop and restart his own in part 3. Do you believe stand phasing should count as a win con? This would allow for characters like Jotaro to win in matchups with a severe AP disadvantage since in many cases, a character’s organs don’t share their durability. I always saw them as a valid argument only under the pretext that Jotaro for example, is bloodlusted (since he isn’t pulling it off in character).
r/PowerScaling • u/Quatumplate • 4h ago
Crossverse Who would win?
Nightmare Luffy (OP) vs Kakuzu (Naruto)
r/PowerScaling • u/Desperate_Hall_299 • 1h ago
Novel(Light,Web,Visual) How powerful is The Horned Surpent from The Monument Mythos?
Does anyone know? Because the last time I checked, barley anyone has actually scaled this thing yet. Only link I can find is VSBW where they have it at High-Universal. That can't be it, right?
Also I don't want to use or believe VSBW which is why I'm asking.
r/PowerScaling • u/Illustrious_Pin4141 • 1h ago
Anime Deku punched afo/shigi so hard that he changed weather and then the wind he created traveled across the Pacific ocean to USA
No idea if the wind affected the whole USA or just Washington state because it was only a reporter from Washington state that said that and rest is unknown.
Keep that in mind that this is Deku without using any other side quirks like Fajin, Gearshift and rest of quirks. It was just base one for all with 45%
The strong wind was still going strong for a week in Washington
Is this a continental feat?
r/PowerScaling • u/the8thchild • 1h ago
Crossverse Idk, their powers look kinda similar, but I am not good at this powerscaling BS
r/PowerScaling • u/Comfortable-Self3990 • 2h ago
Anime 8 Kings VS Justice League AND Avengers
Justice League and a engers reluctantly team up to face the 8 Kings, who wins??
r/PowerScaling • u/thelingoberrt • 4h ago
Anime Abilities in demon slayer
I don't get how in some wis battles, demon slayer characters gets abilities. Like since there are no effects how is it different from a strong men/women striking a sword or blitzing with a sword very fast. Please tell.
Like some of the forms if no visual effects just looks the same and functions the same.