r/TheBoys • u/LoretiTV • Jun 20 '24

The Boys - 4x04 "Wisdom of the Ages" - Episode Discussion Season 4

Season 4 Episode 4: Wisdom of the Ages

Aired: June 20, 2024

Synopsis: Vought News Network is proud to announce its new series #Truthbomb! Join host Firecracker and her celebrity guests for the live 6-hour premiere as they expose Starlight’s Adrenochrome Parties!

Directed by: Phil Sgriccia

Written by: Geoff Aull

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u/KSTwolfe Jun 20 '24

Hey, Annie finally won a fight against another supe without Maeve having to step in to save her!

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u/probablyuntrue Jun 20 '24

maeve actually telekinetically took over starlights body from all the way in argentina

just one of her powers

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u/Vegetable-Pickle-535 Jun 21 '24

Jujutsufolk is leaking

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u/PinkishBlurish Jun 21 '24

Telepathically, I think you mean

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u/ShutUpSaxton Jun 20 '24

Aww that reminded me I miss Maeve :(

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u/TimeForSnacks Jun 21 '24

I'm really starting to doubt Firecracker has any real powers at all

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u/originalusername4567 Jun 21 '24

She for sure has super durability because otherwise Kimiko would have torn her apart. Just not enough to survive Annie's punches I guess, which probably means anyone with super-strength can waste her.

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u/racer_24_4evr Jun 22 '24

Kimiko was also wasted.

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u/BetaThetaOmega Jun 21 '24

I think super durability is probably exaggerating it. Maybe just Durability Lite. Minor Invincibility. She can take a couple more punches than the average joe and maybe even fully recover from something that would cripple a non-Supe, but if you shot her with a gun it would probably kill.

According to that scene where they talk about Sage in E1, she apparently has "minor regeneration." I wonder if its something like that

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u/Well_Socialized Jun 21 '24

Hey she can light your cigarette for you no problem

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u/ffj_ Cunt Jun 21 '24

Yea, which is really sad considering her power is basically a sparkler lmao.

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u/phantom_avenger Jun 20 '24 edited Jun 20 '24

I mean Firecracker didn't fight back on purpose to make Annie look even worse.

We've already seen in the previous episodes that she is a capable fighter, but she needed to look helpless so that Annie looks more out of control.

If anything Firecracker is the one who really won, she did what she promised to do in the previous episode and destroyed her public image as Starlight

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u/bittermixin Jun 20 '24

i didn't get that impression, i think firecracker was genuinely taken aback.

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u/Chrome_X_of_Hyrule Jun 21 '24

Yeah, as frustrated as I was at Starlight doing that her saying "finally ready to debate me?" before getting punched was so fucking satisfying. Just the perfect fantasy of what I'd like to do when far right pundits like that insist on being debated, though of course one punch is enough for me and I don't have superpowers.

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u/phantom_avenger Jun 20 '24 edited Jun 21 '24

Oh no I agree! I definitely think she was a little surprised by the assault, and might’ve expected her to try and defend herself by having some kind of debate. But when she attacks, she kinda just goes with it cause it still makes her look bad.

I think it was always her intention to provoke her that she’d confront her. I think Sage just wanted to take it to a whole other level, and knew the abortion reveal would really trigger Annie

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u/ResortFamous301 Jun 21 '24

Don't think she risk her life like that 

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u/Diet_Christ Jun 21 '24

Fairly obvious from the cut to Sage saying "who's uppity now" that Firecracker was a pawn

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u/HiRedditOmg Jun 21 '24

Nah, she was always just Sage’s scapegoat.

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u/ClaudeGascoigne Jun 21 '24

There's no way she expected that to happen. Sage definitely knew and set up Firecracker to get her ass beat so that her plan went as intended. Also, Firecracker barely fended off a plastered Kimiko and then ran away from 3 dudes armed with only a crowbar and a menorah. If MM didn't show up Annie would have killed Firecracker right there. Which, now that I think about it, was probably what Sage actually wanted to happen.

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u/max_power1000 Jun 21 '24

Yeah, no - I think she's just legitimately a low level supe and Annie is that much stronger than her - it's not that she intentionally didn't fight back, she was just not capable of it.

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u/Nobody5464 Jun 21 '24

No fire cracker did not let herself get beat. Firecracker was not expecting to get attacked she was expecting Annie to try and argue against her and then she’d use her talent for playing the crowd to cut Annie down further. Sage was the one expecting firecracker to get beat. Firecracker isn’t willing to suffer like that to win.

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u/TearsFallWithoutTain Jun 21 '24

She was expecting liberal civility and got leftist praxis lol

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u/Parking_Scar9748 Jun 21 '24

nah, firecracker is weak, she ran from the boys when they were unpowered and only held her own against kimiko when she was sloshed as hell.

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u/insurgentsloth Jun 21 '24

Not the high ground!