r/TheBoys Jul 10 '24

Did she not see Hughie's face plastered all over the news from the past three seasons? Season 4

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u/RogueYet1 Jul 10 '24

I'm still trying to figure out why she's in this season, everything that's happened with her could have just happened with Hughie

Why is she here?

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u/Orunoc Jul 10 '24

Yeah im not so sure, guessing they needed someone to plant the V into his dad since they didn't want Hughie to do it. But even then they didn't need so much screentime, like its a little to late to be introducing characters that have nothing to do with the main plot.

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u/Augustus_Chavismo Jul 10 '24

Yeah im not so sure, guessing they needed someone to plant the V into his dad since they didn't want Hughie to do it.

Which doesn’t make since that entire side story was about Hughie holding on too long when he should let go. Yet he’s the one who did let go. Yet it’s never acknowledged.

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u/Swimmingbird2486 Jul 10 '24

As for the injecting V into his dad, I can kind of see why his mother originally was all for terminating life support because they had NO OTHER CHOICE. With V, there was a chance, and she took it (also assuming Hughie was totally for it as well). At that point, Compound V was in the news (maybe in S1?) so she must have been aware of what it does.

As for letting go, I thought we saw Hughie letting go TWICE - first at the vending machine prior to his mom injecting, and then letting go when he was putting his dad down. I would say even the act of crying and telling Annie that he's not okay at the end of the previous episode due to the SA and his passing is actually showing that he's wanting to move on from grieving over his dad. To elaborate on that last point, he did want to "carry the weight" of grief and keep it inside, he was genuinely reaching out for help which shows that he wants to move on.

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u/ItsAmerico Soldier Boy Jul 10 '24

Because it is acknowledge…? He kills his dad.

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u/Scrobblenauts Cunt Jul 10 '24

I mean there IS another whole season that they're gonna film, maybe she'll do something in that one? but yea she seems a little useless rn ngl lol

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u/MrUsername24 Jul 10 '24

I'm assuming she's some twist villain or there to be part of Hughes emotional arc, probably losing or saving her with the result of a decision

She also works for vought, likely a mlm sort scheme but that could work into the plot somehow. It's also very worrying how she "found" thr compound V and knew to inject it

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u/Randomzombi3 Jul 10 '24

Didn't she say she works for Vought or am I misremembering? If she does then that will definitely come up again somehow. I think either she's not really his mom but a shapeshifting Supe trying to use the weakest link Hughie to get information on the boys or she is who she says she is but only there on orders from Vought.

I mean Newman is working with Homelander/Vought and she and Hughie were very close. She'd know about his mom abandoning him and that his dad is a major weakness for him

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u/CelebrityTakeDown Jul 10 '24

She sells Voughtality, it’s an MLM. So she’s essentially just scamming people with the in-universe version of Mary Kay

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u/spartakooky Jul 10 '24 edited 10d ago

reh re-eh-eh-ehd

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u/dependentmoo Jul 10 '24

Well, in this season, Hughie being upset about being abandoned is toxic.

Wtf is this response? When is that ever implied in the show?

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u/dependentmoo Jul 11 '24

Any time Hughie gets riled up over how/why she left him, she's the one that gets upset and deflects most of the blame

What are you talking about? Which scene? She never gets upset. She at most told him to stop yelling at her and cries after Hughie leaves the room at the end of episode 2 (where he said he is going to sue for power of attorney.)

Saying his dad wouldn't let her speak to him all while she dealt postpartum depression and such.

That was only discussed once, when Hughie directly asks, "Why?" She explains how she left after she had tried to kill herself. She accepts her role in how this hurt Hughie. She says she does not expect forgiveness even. Her saying about her dad is the nuance of that long of a gap. She left for some years of her violation. When she was more stable and wanted to get back in Hughie's life, Hugh Sr. did not want to confuse Hughie. So after a while, she just gave up (which is why she did not come to see Hughie when he turned into an adult). Nowhere in there is blame of how actually it was all Hugh Sr. fault, it's just nuance. Nuance I've seen in real life. Sometimes a parent wants to get back involved but they already stained it by leaving out of the blue. So the other parent cuts them off.

Nowhere is this portrayed as Hughie being toxic for daring to be angry at his mother leaving. It portrays the real family drama of how narratives you have (Hughie's thinking she's a deadbeat mom who left for no reason) are more complicated (Hughie's mom left for complicated reasons). Nowhere in this is Hughie brow beated as toxic.

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u/Hot-Spare-3379 Jul 10 '24

so that people can say this season has a "theme" of people's past coming back to haunt him. It's sooooo smart.

that's why his mom suddenly comes back, that's why frenchie suddenly gets a new boyfriend. that's why firecracker happens to have a connection with starlight. that's why starlight got an abortion between seasons. That's why homelander suddenly goes back to the lab. All these things that are out of nowhere and have nothing to do with the main plot are because they want a "theme".

They had a theme in season 3 of relation ship with parents. hughie and his dad, butcher and his dad, homelander and his dad. and people liked it. So they are trying to repeat that effect at the cost of the plot.

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u/deadshot500 Jul 11 '24

Have nothing to do with the main plot? The plot is the characters and what they are going through matters. Plus those things make perfect sense with what it was established before and now they get explored.

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u/paconinja Jul 10 '24

Is she in the comics?

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u/TesticlesOnMyAnkles Jul 10 '24

Both of Hughie's parents stay in Scotland for the entire story while he gets recruited by Butcher and moves to New York. Neither of his parents are important to the story at all. The only time anything even remotely serious involves them is right at the very end when Butcher mentions visiting them as a way to briefly scare Hughie.

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u/fizban7 Jul 10 '24

how does she know what the blue vial does? That she know exactly what it does is VERY suspicious.

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u/Tom_Stevens617 Jul 10 '24

Compound V has been public knowledge since S2, everyone knows what the blue vial does lol

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u/wiezy Jul 10 '24

I was thinking the same thing. When she was introduced I thought for sure this was going to be a big thing about how Vought now has control over his fathers medical wishes and they were basically blackmailing Hughie but then the fact she works for Vought was just kinda ignored in favor of having Hughie spend several episodes trying to fight back against his dads own wishes and ultimately killing a bunch of people.

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u/GarlicDogeOP Jul 10 '24

Injecting the v into hugh sr, AND giving Hughie jr the ring to push him to propose to Annie?

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u/RogueYet1 Jul 10 '24

Hughie Sr could have given him the ring or Hughie finds it while clearing his dad's apartment and there's any number of ways they could have done the V scene, why bring in an entirely new character this late in the show just for that?

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u/Lilmachinima1 Jul 10 '24

To have Hughie learn how to forgive , so he can make amends with A Train (idk)

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u/strawberryjacuzzis Jul 11 '24

Yeah I was really hoping there was going to end up being more to her character, but now that we’re nearing the end of the season it seems pretty clear that’s the only reason she was brought in and what the writers were going for.

IMO it just wasn’t necessary for his character though since I’m pretty sure the only thing stopping him from forgiving A-Train before was A-Train himself being a horrible person, not the fact that he needed to forgive his mom first. At least I never got the impression he was holding some sort of grudge or desperately in need of some sort of closure from her in the form of an apology and/or explanation.

Her absence in his life definitely shaped who he is, just more in the form of abandonment issues and self worth and trouble letting go of people, but all those things have been addressed many times already and been a huge part of his character development. He could have learned to “let go” of his dad as well without her being a part of that plot line at all. Just a weird and unnecessary choice for the writers to bring her in at this point in she show.

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u/Maleficent-Candy7102 Jul 11 '24

IMO, it was never her. It was just the shapeshifter imitating her.