TIL that in Japan, only 100% fruit juice can display a realistic cut fruit on the label, 95% may display a whole but unsliced fruit. 5% or less, it is forbidden to display a realistic fruit on the label

[u/bodhi-r]

https://blog.kano.ac/2015/07/22/juice-s-label/

[u/fzwo]

In Germany, only 100% juice may be called juice (Saft in German).

[u/Actual-Money7868 → u/fzwo]

In the UK if it's not 100% juice it's a juice drink.

[u/fzwo → u/Actual-Money7868]

Same in German (it’s called Nektar, and if it’s even less, it’s Fruchtsaftgetränk – literally fruit juice drink). Although TBH none of these should be treated as everyday drinks against thirst.

[u/Flob368 → u/fzwo]

Iirc the only thing allowed to be added for Nektar is sugar and water

[u/Complex_Professor412 → u/Flob368]

In American you can remove the sugar from the fruit and add it back and call it 💯 juice with no added sugar.

[u/Jacqques → u/Complex_Professor412]

Why would you remove suger jsut to add it back?

[u/jcw99 → u/Jacqques]

As an addition step to making concentrate to make it even more transportable between where the fruit is grown/juced and where the consumers are.

[u/HayakuEon → u/Jacqques]

Remove the sugar, sell it. Add back corn syrup.

[u/Complex_Professor412 → u/HayakuEon]

Like how we remove the oil from peanuts than add palm oil.

[u/KobeBeatJesus → u/fzwo]

It's crazy to think of juice as a luxury when it's so abundant. You probably shouldn't be drinking 10 oranges or whatever it is that makes a glass of OJ. 

[u/blearghstopthispls → u/KobeBeatJesus]

Two, or three if small, oranges. Four if they're really small and not very juicy. You should try.

[u/KobeBeatJesus → u/blearghstopthispls]

I grow my own citrus and have a juicer. 3 isn't going to cut it. 

[u/username_generated → u/KobeBeatJesus]

what if I told you there was a better way?

[u/Dr_Vesuvius → u/username_generated]

IT’S WHISPER QUIET!

[u/KobeBeatJesus → u/username_generated]

That'd work wonders on my sweet Valencia oranges. 

[u/Akamaikai → u/fzwo]

Here in America our juice is juice, just not the juice it says.

[u/Krawen13 → u/Akamaikai]

Surprisingly almost always pear juice I didn't ask for

[u/Schuben → u/Krawen13]

And apple juice.

[u/medoy → u/fzwo]

In Spain, juice must come from fruit grown in the Zuma region in Galicia. Otherwise its known as Alcantarilla con Gas.

[u/Nix_Alba → u/Actual-Money7868]

In Scotland 'juice' can mean anything from diluting juice, fruit juice, soft drinks

[u/Actual-Money7868 → u/Nix_Alba]

Same here but I meant the packaging.

100% juice will say "Orange Juice" anything else would be "Orange juice drink".

You've probably never noticed but it's there. For example Capri Sun is a labelled "Fruit Juice Drink".

[u/Nix_Alba → u/Actual-Money7868]

I actually work in a 'juice' factory so I'm aware ;) I thought calling everything juice was just a Scottish-ism

[u/Actual-Money7868 → u/Nix_Alba]

Ah fair play. Make a extra good batch of "juice" for us commoners 👍 Christmas soon 😂

[u/ICC-u → u/Nix_Alba]

Is irnbru juice?

[u/wren6991 → u/Actual-Money7868]

In the UK we don't say "cheese singles" we say "cheese-style food slices" and I think that's beautiful

[u/londons_explorer → u/wren6991]

I really want someone to just name their product "We're not allowed to call it cheese".

In fact, you could start a whole brand called "We're not allowed to call it", and then just put the product name after the logo.

Maybe cover the whole thing in UK flags and see if you can get the anti-regulation brexiteers to buy it religiously.

[u/kingsumo_1 → u/londons_explorer]

'That ain't fruit, bruv: Juice inspired "drink"'

[u/ICC-u → u/wren6991]

The nasty cheap ones are called "American cheese style slices" or "Cheese Style Slices", the better ones are called "American Style Cheese Slices". It's subtle, but it's there.

[u/foodank012018 → u/Actual-Money7868]

What about Grape Drink?

[u/ICC-u → u/foodank012018]

You mean purple drink

[u/saliczar → u/Actual-Money7868]

In Houston, drank is prepared by mixing prescription-grade cough or cold syrup containing an opioid drug and an anti-histamine drug with a soft drink and sometimes hard candy.

[u/Nykramas → u/saliczar]

Until the start of 2024 in the UK you could make the same cocktail with things bought entirely over the counter. RIP the P designated codeine syrup (promethazine syrup is still P).

[u/Bloblablawb → u/Actual-Money7868]

So that you don't confuse it with juice solids?

[u/10001110101balls → u/[deleted]]

Muscle tissue is 75% water by weight fresh off the animal, it seems disingenuous to say that half of the weight of a burger being water is unnatural or manipulative.

[u/shortfinal → u/10001110101balls]

Shocker too: that water carries tons of water-soluble stuff, like amino acids and minerals. Some of which are left behind after cooking.

People be like "why I'm paying for all that water" like having a job to do is supposed to cost nothing.

[u/EggOkNow → u/10001110101balls]

If it ain't a patty sized slab of jerky weighing 1/4lb of pure protien you're lying to me about what my burger is, okay. Also, it better be fatty and juicy too or I'll feel like I paid too much for a 1/4lb of dry ass burger. /s. Some of the arguments people make on what they think they should be getting from a meat processing plant is ridiculous. If you want properly sourced meat you know the destination of you're going to have to pay for it. You can't honestly be going to mcdonalds and expect the best beef around to be served to you in under 5 minutes for what was historically semi cheap. Is it the jungle? Or the zoo? Whatever old book about the horrors of meat processing in america. People living primitively or remotely today, tribes people in Africa too the people on t.v. living in Alaska, eat every part of the animal any way. It's only respectful to the animal we eat all we can off of it any way. If you want the cheapest animal protien out there you're getting a blend of the least wanted bits. It's not something that should be looked down upon really either, we cant be that wasteful with so much of the animals we produce, its unsustainable to throw so much of the animal away because you think your too good to eat all of an animal that was killed to feed you. It's weird to me to think you should be getting the best parts of an animal in your dirt cheap meat paste, who do you think you are?

[u/PmMeUrTinyAsianTits → u/[deleted]]

But they're mostly water and cow's assholes

But usually implies youre going to say something that contradicts the previous part. Thats beef. If you thought you were getting quality cuts i don't know what to tell you other than dont eat hotdogs...

[u/henkhenksen52 → u/[deleted]]

Cow's ass is technically beef tho

[u/EggOkNow → u/henkhenksen52]

Kill the cow, cut the steaks off, blend em into burger. Throw the rest away because leather products are animal cruelty too. /s.

[u/Pallets_Of_Cash → u/[deleted]]

"Boneless wings" don't have to be boneless or come from the chicken wing.

[u/Consistent_Bee3478 → u/Pallets_Of_Cash]

I mean boneless wings work the same as pitted cherries: they are noninally boneless/pitless. But in production single pits/bones might be missed therefore you shouldn’t smash your teeth into them.

But the wing part is a scam 

[u/EggOkNow → u/Pallets_Of_Cash]

In my opinion you know the boneless wing is a chicken nugget and they call it a boneless wing so you dont look like such a weird sissy pants going out for hot wings but just wanting nuggies. You want wings or nuggets, you're lying to yourself and the establishment is helping because they just want to make the sale. "I want to eat a chicken wing but I can't handle actually dealing with the bits, I'd rather have a factory blend it for me first. Out of site out of mind."

[u/gwaydms → u/EggOkNow]

I hate nuggies. Give me wings with the bones.

[u/AzertyKeys → u/[deleted]]

Bro you realise water being part of meat is normal ? Have you ever seen dried meat ?

[u/RickyNixon → u/[deleted]]

You’re crazy

[u/HorribleatElden → u/[deleted]]

Dude, beef is mostly water. And a cows asshole is still beef.

Also, does me putting some lemon juice in your apple juice because my apples came too sweet really make it not apple juice to you? What if I put some sugar because it's too tart?

I'd say if my juice is 95% real shit and some additives to make it better or healthier, that's fine.

[u/pyronius → u/fzwo]

In America, boneless wings can still have bones.

[u/fzwo → u/pyronius]

I don’t even know what boneless wings are. I don’t think they’re a thing over here.

[u/pyronius → u/fzwo]

Basically just a fancy name for chicken tenders.

Restaurants that serve chicken wings will often offer a choice between actual bone-in wings, and "boneless wings", which are just cuts of breast meat roughly the same size as wings, cooked the same way. But despite being referred to and sold as "boneless wings", courts recently ruled that there was no reason for the customer to assume that they would actually be devoid of bones...

[u/fzwo → u/pyronius]

…or wings, apparently. Strange!

[u/OttoVonWong → u/fzwo]

We call that FREEDOM to lie in the name of capitalism.

[u/DreamDare- → u/pyronius]

Wait... how do you call deboned wings then, if "boneless wings" are basically chicken breast.

[u/midvalegifted → u/DreamDare-]

I don’t know anyone who is spending time to debone wings…not enough meat. Usually you just eat the meat off or use it for soup/stock.

[u/DreamDare- → u/midvalegifted]

I mean its definitely a thing in some mediterranean recipes that require you to debone the whole chicken. (i use to make them all the time)

But while yeah its isnt that common, its very weird to take the "boneless wings" name like its isn't a think that already exists.

[u/Klepto666 → u/DreamDare-]

I think it would be called "wing meat." You can find meat that surrounds the ribs referred to as "rib meat" in some packages, so I presume it'd be the same thing in this case.

"Boneless wings" have become a naming convention for chunks of breast meat, probably because chicken wings are technically white meat as well. There's an argument to be made there but I do think it causes confusion until someone informs you about it, which means there's an issue that should be rectified.

Technically "boneless wings" and "chicken tenders" are not the same thing, as chicken tenders are supposed to be the tenderloin of a chicken, thus the naming convention of calling them tenders. Although due to the mass production of frozen chicken tenders, I wouldn't be surprised if a good number of them are just strips of chicken breast, which in those cases... yeah those chicken tenders and a row of boneless wings would be the same.

[u/HaggisInMyTummy → u/pyronius]

The fact that the term is commonly understood to not even refer to "wing" meat was not lost on the court writing the opinion. It's not a chunk of metal or glass in the wing. It's just a chicken nugget that had a piece of bone. "Boneless" is not a guarantee for safety it's just a preference to make them easier to eat.

[u/ImperfectRegulator → u/HaggisInMyTummy]

Exactly it’s like bugs or rat poop in cereals and other foods it’s considered natural or unavoidable defects in products due to how they are made, like if every single boneless wing coming off the line had bones in it they might have a case but 1 wing containing bones out of 1000’s does not

[u/Mad_Aeric → u/pyronius]

That's an Ohio ruling, and actually goes against the USDA classification. Of course, now that Chevron has been overturned by the SCROTUS, I'll bet they use that case to attack the USDA's ability to make those sorts of regulations.

[u/ImperfectRegulator → u/pyronius]

If your referring to the lawsuit from a few months ago about the dude who was swallowing wings damn near whole without chewing, the ruling was made for the same reason cereals/flour/rice have a certain tolerance for allowed amount of bug parts/rat poo as natural or unavoidable defects, it’s the same for bones in boneless chicken wings because anyone who has 5 braincells to rub together knows their is no such thing as boneless chickens and the meat for said wings is made from a creature with bones and no manufacturing process is perfect

[u/Busy_Promise5578 → u/fzwo]

Same with the us actually

[u/fzwo → u/Busy_Promise5578]

Judging by this thread and others like it, many people don't seem to know.

Although it is allowed in the US to add unlisted additives even to "100% juice", for example ethyl butyrate to orange juice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juice#Terminology

[u/Ullallulloo → u/fzwo]

America is the same.

[u/YeepyTeepy → u/fzwo]

How strange, in Norway saft is a syrup you mix with water to make basically lemonade with a bunch of different flavors.

[u/Hillary-2024 → u/fzwo]

What about 94-6%? This segment is unaccounted for

[u/HyperSpaceSurfer → u/fzwo]

Huh, in Icelandic saft is naturally flavored juice made from something that doesn't work as a pure juice. Usually just added water and sugar, sometimes lemon. Usually a berry drink, also had rhubarb. We call fruit juice "safi" over here instead. And juice mixed from concentrate is "djús", pretty much just juice with the Icelandic spelling, since j only makes a y type sound. Although, juices using just natural ingredients from the fruit are still called "safi" despite almost all juices being made from concentrate.

[u/xError404xx → u/fzwo]

They get easily aeound that though with stuff like "juice with watermelon taste"

[u/fzwo → u/xError404xx]

Not in Germany, no. Although „Fruchtsaftgetränk“ is a category of drink that only has to contain very little amounts of juice.

[u/iNCharism → u/xError404xx]

Not in the U.S. If it’s not 100% Juice the container will say Juice Beverage and/or label the percentage

[u/Personal-Mark-74]

It really helps keep shady sellers from tricking consumers.

[u/MannequinWithoutSock → u/Personal-Mark-74]

Meanwhile in Americaland, they tint clear bags to make fruits and veggies look better.

[u/Ventes_XIII → u/MannequinWithoutSock]

Wait what!?

[u/lapideous → u/Ventes_XIII]

Bags of oranges are usually clear, but with red stripes. Or just red mesh. It tricks you into thinking they’re more orange than they actually are, check it out next time

[u/Guytherealguy → u/lapideous]

I mean the red nets oranges come in where i live are the same and i'm in the EU. So it's not a USA exclusive thing

[u/OK_Soda → u/Guytherealguy]

But America bad!

[u/Massive_Pressure_516 → u/OK_Soda]

America indeed bad

[u/gardenmud → u/Guytherealguy]

I mean, that's fair but the nets at least serve the purpose of being nets; there is no reason the plastic bags should have those stripes except the illusion.

[u/Tifoso89 → u/lapideous]

I live in Italy and oranges come in red mesh here too, so that's at least two countries haha.

I didn't know it was to make the orange stand out, though. Fascinating

[u/Foreign_Penalty_5341 → u/lapideous]

https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/1egx8a3/this_mesh_bag_makes_oranges_look_way_more_orange/

Here’s a visual!

[u/aCleverGroupofAnts → u/lapideous]

Well damn, this actually explains a lot

[u/tanerdamaner → u/Ventes_XIII]

might be for certain specific brands, every grocery store I've been to has a normal produce area with raw veggies and fruit you put in bags yourself

[u/Spend-Automatic → u/MannequinWithoutSock]

In Americaland, many crab rangoons don't even contain FAKE crab anymore. Just cream cheese. 

[u/Cooperette → u/Spend-Automatic]

Cream cheese with essence of "crab".

[u/dandroid126 → u/MannequinWithoutSock]

We do? I've never seen that here.

[u/FacelessOldWoman1234 → u/dandroid126]

Do you buy carrots in a bag? Look closely at the bags next time - that's where I see it most often (Canada, but same thing). Bags of oranges use red or orange mesh for this same reason.

[u/Same_Recipe2729 → u/FacelessOldWoman1234]

Why are my potatoes in a red mesh bag then 

[u/dandroid126 → u/FacelessOldWoman1234]

I buy carrots by grabbing them from a shelf and putting them in a bag myself. Same with all my other produce.

[u/Tifoso89 → u/dandroid126]

Yeah but they may also be already packed

[u/TopSupermarket9023 → u/Tifoso89]

Yes but he needs to make sure you know that he's superior to you

He probably pretends he isn't aware that cars exist because he rides a bike

[u/bigfatround0 → u/MannequinWithoutSock]

Meanwhile in pullshitoutyourassland, people like you make stuff up.

[u/sir_duckingtale]

We’ve seen the same YouTube Video I see…

[u/Any-Cause-374 → u/sir_duckingtale]

right I was just thinking I learned this recently too lmao

[u/NatureTrailToHell3D → u/Any-Cause-374]

Every now and then, albeit still rare, someone posts something they actually learned that very day on this sub.

[u/nirvashj → u/sir_duckingtale]

Weird that the same YT short was also recommended to me just a few days ago lol

[u/BeautifulType → u/sir_duckingtale]

What video

[u/sir_duckingtale → u/BeautifulType]

YouTube Video showing just this

With some girl in a moving staircase at the beginning

Seemed to be recommended by the YouTube algorithm recently

[u/pickstar97a → u/sir_duckingtale]

Can you link it? I can’t exactly search up “some girl on a moving staircase”

[u/summer_petrichor → u/pickstar97a]

Not sure which video they saw but this was the one I saw.

u/beautifultype

[u/TyranitarusMack → u/sir_duckingtale]

I saw that YouTube short like 2 days ago as well

[u/sir_duckingtale → u/TyranitarusMack]

Yes,

I do believe it was a short

Would explain my struggles to find it again

[u/The_Mdk]

Ok but what about 6 to 94%?

Edit: the title is worded wrong, the non-cut fruit can be displayed from 5% to 99%, under 5% you are not allowed to draw a "realistic" fruit at all

[u/LiberContrarion → u/The_Mdk]

"Only images from historic manga may be displayed on juice drinks containing between 6% and 94% juice."

[u/linglingbolt → u/LiberContrarion]

<image of Daigoro crying for *mikan*>

[u/DietCherrySoda → u/The_Mdk]

Why are people so bad at words?

[u/Garyishairy45 → u/DietCherrySoda]

Because word hard

[u/M4cker85 → u/The_Mdk]

They can show fruit but it must be in the shape of a penis.  If they use plums for example there must be a banana in the middle.  Or if they are showing a carrot it must be accompanied by 2 kiwi fruit

[u/The_Mdk → u/M4cker85]

Knowing Japan, this could very well be true

[u/mrwillbobs → u/The_Mdk]

Bro did poorly on his primary school reading comprehension tests

[u/Busy_Promise5578 → u/mrwillbobs]

No he didn’t, the title is poorly worded

[u/Skankcunt420 → u/Busy_Promise5578]

if u see OP comment further below, he totally fucked up and this commenter interpreted it correctly

[u/southinthrowaway → u/mrwillbobs]

It was probably all the pure sugar "juice".

[u/peppapony]

Funnily enough though the word 'juice' in Japanese can be used for any sort of soft drink/sweetened drink (ジュース)

[u/kane49 → u/peppapony]

these loan words have overtaken the original version in some case which is also kinda funny

People will look at you funny when you use 持ち帰り instead of takeouto :P

/E: Because some people took this as offensive, this is anecdotal evidence in a reddit post and not a peer reviewed study.

[u/Telaranrhioddreams → u/kane49]

I mean yeah that's like saying the English definition of deja vu instead of just saying deja vu.

"I have a feeling of passing nostalgia like this has happened before".

"You mean deja vu?"

"Yes that's what I said".

Loan words only stick out to us because a lot of them are from English. English has a similar amount of loan words we just don't notice because they've integrated- a French person would probably find our loan words from them funny too and wonder why we use them over our own words.

[u/EjunX → u/Telaranrhioddreams]

As a stupid side note and pet peeve: I've always been unsure of how "native" the pronounciation of loan words should be as well as foreign cities etc.

It would be ridiculous to pronounce things in French randomly in the middle of a sentence, but it often sounds equally bad to say it exactly like it would be said in "naive" English based on the letters.

Examples:

1. We say "Paris" and not "Pari" (incorrect)
2. But we say "Maasay" instead of "Marseille" (correct)
3. We definitely don't say "coop the grace" in stead of "cou de graass" (correct)

It might sound really pretentious to pronounce everything as native as possible, but it sounds equally dumb to fully commit to an English pronounciation based on the letters that make the word.

I feel like we never really agreed on how to handle it, but I'd like for it to be consistent. If we commit to an English pronounciation, but with the e.g. French phonetics (e.g. "cou de graass"), then I really want us to start saying "Pari" instead of "Paris".

[u/Telaranrhioddreams → u/EjunX]

I'm so here for this rant. I get the most heated when this gets dragged into the "is it racist to not say a foreign name right?" question because ultimately the answer is........it depends!! You can't expect a non native speaker to get the pronunciation to any word, name, place, thing, eternal right. Some languages, like Korean, require you to completely relearn how to shape your mouth to make the proper sounds. Chinese has tones which most non tonal language speakers struggle to comprehend let alone replicate, yet not having a tone completely changes the word. Language is way too complex to expect people to get foreign pronunciations right.

[u/bentnotbroken96 → u/EjunX]

Sounds to me like you could use some Language Jones: https://www.youtube.com/@languagejones6784

[u/EjunX → u/bentnotbroken96]

Thanks, this channel was quite interesting. Never would have thought to look up a linguist on youtube

[u/hardxstyle → u/kane49]

What? お持ち帰り is absolutely still in standard daily use and no one will ‘look at you funny’for using it.

[u/2d-kun → u/hardxstyle]

Ah checked his history. He probably went here once, didn't pronounce it correctly which made the staff not understand him. This experience, of course, encompasses everyone's experience as well.

[u/2d-kun → u/kane49]

Where do you live? In Tokyo, everywhere I go, they use 持ち帰り. Never had the funny eye saying that.

[u/Doughop → u/kane49]

and if you say "take out" like you do in English they also might not understand (assuming they don't speak any English). You can experience the reverse where some loanwords when said in the Japanese way sound nothing like it does in English.

[u/Ni689M → u/kane49]

Take out and お持ち帰り is not one of them

[u/Krocsyldiphithic → u/kane49]

I've lived in Japan for over a decade and have only heard a Japanese person say "takeout" maybe twice. お持ち帰りis the only standard phrase.

[u/poktanju → u/peppapony]

Actual fruit juice would be called the Japanese term 果汁 kajū.

[u/Skwigle]

Worst place I've ever seen for misleading labeling is the Philippines. Literally says "orange juice" but it's actually a blend with mostly apple juice. Hamburgers can be whatever fucking meat they want, doesn't have to be beef. Butter, holy shit don't even get me started. There are tons more than I forget right now but man, what a mess. Hard to believe they allow that kind of lying.

[u/AnInsultToFire]

We have something similar in Canada. Something like you can't all the product "juice" unless it's 100% (or 90%?) actual juice, if it's sugar-added you have to call it a "punch", and if it's below (I think) 30% you can only call it a "drink".

[u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

In America you can dump a pound of sugar into a jug, along with some food coloring, and that’s what we legally call fruit juice.

I know this is going to sound like a conspiracy theory. But I’m starting to think maybe that has something to do with explaining why so many 6th graders have the physique of a sumo wrestler.

[u/RunningNumbers → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

What used to be a summer treat after running around all day now is standard fare for sitting around all day.

[u/Dragonfly-Adventurer → u/RunningNumbers]

The pendulum has swung back. Today’s attentive parents don’t let this happen. However daycares will happily stuff “fruit snacks” in toddlers hands, despite it being pure candy. 

[u/dedicated-pedestrian → u/Dragonfly-Adventurer]

Agar or Jell-O in molds has saved me. I missed fruit snacks so much but know they're so bad for me.

[u/Obrut1 → u/dedicated-pedestrian]

Do you have a favorite recipe or any suggestions?

[u/dedicated-pedestrian → u/Obrut1]

The Jell-O recipe is easiest. 1 packet of any flavor sugar free, 1 envelope unflavored gelatin, 1/2 cup water or juice. Sprinkle the gelatin over the water, let bloom for 3-5min. Heat over low just until dissolved, don't allow to simmer (otherwise your gummies will be full of bubbles, more a looks thing). Spoon into molds or use a pipette.

You can use 2 envelopes unflavored, sweetener of your choice in the water (or juice, except pineapple), and flavor to taste.

[u/messem10 → u/dedicated-pedestrian]

Their sugar-free pudding mixes with some almondmilk is good too. I've even heard of people putting a packet of the mix into a can of pumpkin and eating it that way. (Pretty low calorie for a snack.)

[u/DevelopmentSad2303 → u/RunningNumbers]

Kids don't run around these days because they get arrested for being a nuisance!

[u/1CEninja → u/RunningNumbers]

I feel like I grew up at the perfect time. I distinctly remember summer vacation after being a freshman in high school, a standard day was hopping on my skateboard to gather up all the neighborhood kids to get a 4 on 4 or 5 on 5 two hand touch football game going, then as we got tired some would go home and some would come over to play super smash brothers.

I have incredibly fond memories of that period of time, especially considering as how I was the best receiver of everyone in the neighborhood and the second best smash player.

[u/slaymaker1907 → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

Nope, not legal. Certain additives are allowed, but sugar is not one of them if you want to call your product fruit juice.

[u/bsievers → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

In America you can dump a pound of sugar into a jug, along with some food coloring, and that’s what we legally call fruit juice.

I'm all for pushing for healthier regulations but that's just entirely untrue.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=101.30

[u/Kim-dongun → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

Source? Fda says anything below 100% must be called a punch, cocktail, drink, blend, etc. And it's not as if 100% juice is healthy either.

[u/upvoter222 → u/Kim-dongun]

Seemingly every fruit drink I've seen lists what percent of the drink is juice.

[u/StephenFish → u/Kim-dongun]

Source?

The source is always big feelings and that cannot be cited.

[u/UninsuredToast → u/Kim-dongun]

At least 100 percent juice doesn’t have a bunch of sugar in it! /s

[u/_BreakingGood_ → u/Kim-dongun]

That's not what the regulation says.

The regulation says that you can't call it "100% juice" unless it is actually 100% juice.

[u/Kim-dongun → u/_BreakingGood_]

What you said is true as well. The requirement to list the percent juice content is separate from the product description requirement. Down to 10% juice it can still have juice in the name but it has to have a qualifier afterwards. For example, Capri sun is a "juice drink blend", Hawaiian punch is a "juice drink", and hi-c, which is below 10%, is a "fruit drink". Also, I believe the qualifier has to be the same size and type as the word "juice", so these descriptions are in pretty small print. The point is, if something is clearly and obviously labeled as "juice" without any weasel words, it has to be 100%.

[u/ObiJuanKenobi3 → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

You really can just make shit up about America and braindead Redditors will upvote without question. There are very comprehensive rules on what can be labeled as "juice" in the USA. In fact, these rules provide much more easily-understood consumer information than some weird system of fruit display on the package.

[u/StephenFish → u/ObiJuanKenobi3]

The United States is ranked 3rd in the entire world for food safety but "America bad" "food is poison" is way easier to believe than the idea that you're just making really bad choices.

[u/jsting → u/ObiJuanKenobi3]

I am legitimately confused on how Tropicana gets away with this.

Tropicana ruby red grapefruit 100% juice has these ingredients

FILTERED WATER, SUGAR, GRAPEFRUIT JUICE CONENTRATE, GRAPE JUICE CONCENTRATE, CITRIC ACID, NATURAL FLAVORS, PECTIN,

Edit: thank you all, I got it, bad Amazon listing

[u/Damaniel2 → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

Not true. Anything less than 100% juice must be called a 'juice drink' or 'juice cocktail', depending on the amount of juice (which must also be displayed as a percentage on the label).

And honestly, 100% fruit juice is still loaded with tons of sugar - it's no better for you than soda.

[u/939319 → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

If they add "drink" to the end of the name it can be anything, really. 

[u/-Intelligentsia → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

That’s not true. America may be lax on a lot of things, but it’s not a free for all.

[u/Exciting_Mobile_1484 → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

Maybe my sample size is small (Central KY), but, I've been telling people constantly how pleasantly surorised I am with the health and fitness levels of youth now. In daycares it honestly feels like a shock to see an overweight child these days. They are definitely a huge minority where I am at least with youth.

It seems like my age group generation (90s and early 2000s) who were young in that time have turned into super health-conscious parents. It seems like we got caught in the worst time as kids when everything was so unhealthy, but it wasn't talked about or exposed enough back then. So we grew up and caught it, and made quick sweeping changes to nutrition (and physical fitness to a slughtly lesser extent), resulting in the next generation being much better off and more aware of health and food choices.

It honestly seems like I never even see kids drinking soda anymore outside of special occasions. Kinda proud of our generation quickly turning around the American weight stereotype (obviously progress is still "slow" and problems remain).

[u/Mental_Tea_4084 → u/Exciting_Mobile_1484]

Sounds like a confirmation bias. People who can afford daycare are likely to be more educated and be able to afford more healthy foods.

It's a little like walking into a McDonald's and being shocked that the people there are unhealthy.

[u/Exciting_Mobile_1484 → u/Mental_Tea_4084]

Very possible that contributes. But I will add that the daycares we've been at have been typically heavy in parents using assistance. Same observations apply to elementary schools as well. But yes, lower income typically meeans worse health and fitness.

[u/jake3988 → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

No, you can't do that. FDA regulations absolutely do not allow that.

[u/Commentor9001 → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

Fruit inspired juice 

[u/socokid → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

That's not true at all.

1400 upvotes.

FFS... no one at reddit needs resources any more? Just believe whatever some random redditor writes?

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-21/chapter-I/subchapter-B/part-101/subpart-B/section-101.30

[u/edusenxbas → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

Sumo wrestlers train 24/7. All the fat is superficial, not intramuscular. Under the fat there is the body of a heavyweight boxer. Yankees wish they had the physique of a sumo wrestler.

[u/Coffee_Ops → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

On reddit you can dump a bunch of nonsense into a jug with some food coloring, pour it into a browser, and legally call it a highly rated comment.

I'm starting to think it has something to do with why so many social media participants have the critical thinking skills of a 6th grader.

[u/StoneRyno → u/Failed-Time-Traveler]

That and your options in sugar are almost literally “ZERO SUGAR!” and “ALL THE SUGAR!!1!” There are hardly any options between the two, just extreme excess or total drought. Why can’t they just make products for normal people who don’t have moderation issues?

[u/UglieJosh → u/StoneRyno]

A low sugar option would probably still have a bunch of sugar alcohol or other artificial sweetener in it like the sugar free does to make up for the lower sugar content. There just wouldn't be much point.

[u/EggOkNow → u/StoneRyno]

Yeah, uh, that's called water.

[u/poggyrs → u/EggOkNow]

Water is zero sugar. Unless I’m drinking the wrong kind of water

[u/flargenhargen]

in the US, you can buy strawberry instant oatmeal with pieces of real fruit inside!

but when you check closely, the fruit is actually tiny pieces of apples which have red food dye and artificial strawberry flavor added, cause they are slightly cheaper.

edit:

https://i.imgur.com/QpVzqld.png

[u/HaggisInMyTummy → u/flargenhargen]

more than "slightly" cheaper lmao - apples are pretty much the cheapest fruit there is; strawberries are quite expensive for many reasons.

[u/flargenhargen → u/HaggisInMyTummy]

when you realize there is only about a half of one strawberry per packet, it's fractions of cent, slightly by any realistic scale.

https://i.imgur.com/5GYDZsj.png

[u/MariaValkyrie → u/flargenhargen]

You aren't thinking of the shareholders. They can't afford their new Yachts if we give the peons real fruit.

[u/Which_Bed]

There is also a little notch cut into the tops of cartons that are real milk. There are many milk based products available so the notches are really useful for identifying the good stuff.

[u/fzwo → u/Which_Bed]

I really want to know what that looks like, but I dare not google for "Japanese milk notch"

[u/Which_Bed → u/fzwo]

Think of a paper milk carton like the ones served in any elementary school. Remember the triangular top that comes to a point with a paper Mohawk? Put a fingertip deep dent in the mohawk and that's what it looks like (the dent is there for the visually impaired).

[u/ThePheebs]

Yeah, I saw that YouTube short as well.

[u/skill1358]

Pretty sure I saw a YouTube short on this 4 days ago

[u/RepublicansEqualScum]

I'm guessing then that it doesn't apply to alcoholic drinks?

Fruit-flavored alcohol cans frequently feature both whole and cut fruit with nowhere near that content of real fruit juice.

[u/LegitimateStep126]

I know which tiktok you learned this from ha

[u/SublimeAtrophy]

What about 6%-94%?

[u/nondescriptun]

What about 5% - 95%?

[u/arkington]

Even actual, squeezed-from-a-piece-of-fruit juice is nutritionally a bad idea. Fruits contain a bunch of fructose, which we do need a bit of. But only a bit. The rest of the fruit (the part with all the fiber) fills you up so that when you eat the fruit, you get that small bit of fructose, but you also got all that fiber, so you are satisfied and don't eat 8 more pieces.
You remove that fibrous element and just drink the juice, you're going to get 7 or 8 (or however many) fruits' worth of that fructose and none of the fiber. Hello obesity.

Just eat the fruit, if you have access to it. I do understand that in many places fresh (or even canned) fruit is not available, but that doesn't change the reality that fruit juice is just a bad idea from a nutritional standpoint.

[u/Telaranrhioddreams → u/arkington]

Ah yes the classic "this item has 1 thing that's bad for you in high amounts so don't consume it at all!".

Fruit is also messy to eat and can be difficult to find time for on the go or in a busy schedule. Juice, along with the scary dreaded fructose, is packed full of vitamins, vitamin c especially in most citrus. As long as you aren't diabetic or have another issue with sugar in your diet fruit juice is a great option. Believe it or not humans do need sugars to function too.

It sucks that in the US it's really hard to find it without a ton of added sugars but if you can get your hands on natural no additive juice it's an amazing thing to have in your routine. Sure it doesn't have fiber but there's a million ways to add some fiber into your diet if it's lacking, juice instead of fruit isn't going to be enough to have a major impact for most people.

[u/JustifytheMean → u/Telaranrhioddreams]

so don't consume it at all

I don't think that's what anyone is saying. Just warning people you should drink fruit juice in moderation. Some people treat it like water since they think it's "healthy". Yeah it's maybe slightly better than a soda due to the vitamins, but you could drink a soda and take a vitamin supplement and be in the same place.

Realistically anything that isn't leafy greens or lean proteins should be eaten in moderation.

[u/bodhi-r]

I blew it and should have said 5% or more.

[u/Low_Society6275]

Looks like you watched that YouTube teacher girl's video too

[u/iblastoff]

this doesnt sound accurate. what about those suntory cc lemon bottles? no way that is mostly lemon.

[u/poktanju → u/iblastoff]

Those have cartoon lemons on them, not realistic ones (they're 1% juice). At least Japanese market ones--there are versions for export with sliced lemons on them.

[u/Sneekybeev]

Great more useless shit to fill my brain with

[u/bsievers]

What happens between 95% and 5%?

[u/Leptok]

I too saw that short

[u/Rhoden913]

So what if it's like 50%?

[u/Sheepy_Dream]

In Sweden Only 100% fruit juice can legally be called juice

[u/TranslateErr0r]

What about between 5 and 95%?

[u/TrueClue9740]

There is a huge gap between 5 and 95 and most people don’t read labels.

[u/lehtomaeki]

On similar notes in Japan if candy packaging features the candy in question on the packaging it has to be the actual size of the candy with a very small margin of error

[u/FlyingFigurehead]

And yet all their candy has the most delicious looking fruit on the package you have ever seen.

[u/manorm]

It is similar for food/snacks. The image on the front of the packet has to be the actual size of the product? or that could be made up

[u/Psy-Kosh]

Wait, so the rule for, say, 94% and for 6% is the same?

[u/yeah-ok]

I love the "95% may display a whole but unsliced fruit" - like.. sorry, but what kind of whole fruits are not unsliced 😂. Also, now that I'm getting pedantic about this.. it seems like a bit of a copout to allow a fruit juice that only contains 5% fruit to display a perfectly functional but, say slightly cartoonish, fruit... as a consumer I feel manhandled at this point.

[u/Upbeat-Peanut5890]

In America, they put fruit on Caprisun if I remember correctly

[u/AggravatingIssue7020]

Disclaimer:  Gf has a PhD in Nutrition and dietetics.

The topic matter is pretty moot, if anyone thinks fructose from real fruit in liquid form is better than the sugary crap fake juices, then they need a reality check.

Did you know that fructose can only be stored in the liver? Capacity 25grams, absorption rate 5g per hour.

Do you know the implications?

Fructose is metabolized differently from glucose. It is processed in the liver and has a very limited storage capacity.

Consuming large amounts of fructose, even from natural sources like 100% fruit juice, will overload the liver, very much like alcohol(alcohol is basically fermented fructose) leading to the conversion of excess fructose into fat. 

This can contribute to non-alcoholic fatty liver disease and other metabolic issues.

Now some people will say "but the fibre". Well, here's some bad news.

There is no fiber in fruit juice, and as fiber slows the absorption of sugar, preventing the insulin spikes that come from drinking fake fruit juice. So the end result is the same.

Gram for gram, they're all rubbish, any liquid calories are rubbish, and if both fake and real fruit juices contain 8g per deciliter, you're better off drinking the fake one.

Fruit is somewhat healthy so long it's a fruit, once liquid, you create an absence of fibers.

Now some will say but the vitamins. Get your vitamins from vegetables, I mean it's okay to eat a banana or an apple a day, but don't get your vitamins from fruit only